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Old 10-31-2007, 09:44 PM   #1
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How much experience, in your opinion, should you have before taking it to the track? Where do you get started?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:49 PM   #2
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This is how I see it: if you do one track day you will learn more in that one day than 6 months riding the streets.
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I'd say about 6 months solid street riding & you should be fine. Maybe less if you leave your ego at home, and take the instruction to heart.

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as long as you feel comfortable riding your bike, and you know how to work all the functions on your bike....i think you're ready to go.

or you can get with someone with experience, and get some of the mental training done before actual hands on training.

i'm not sure what part of town you are in....but you're welcome to swing by my shop.....and i can show you a few things without even starting the bike up.
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I'd say about 6 months solid street riding & you should be fine. Maybe less if you leave your ego at home, and take the instruction to heart.

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sounds about what i recommend, and that riding 6 mos, not 1000mi in 6 mos.
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I recommend reading the 1st two Code books for the mental aspect. Also, they seem to help take some of the guess work out of what you'll want to do & gives you insight on where people who'll be instructing you are coming from (0.02)

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I see people who've only had a few weeks exp. to young kids, (13-16 y.o.) with no street bike exp. all the time. You should come when you are ready.

you're going to learn quite a bit in one day tho, leave your bad habits and your ego at the gate tho.

Newish riders learn better, the ways of more proper riding than do the people with years of exp. of riding with bad habits.
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+1 I read number 2 before every track day. Just come with an open mind and leave the ego at home. Be careful the track is very addicting.
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UMMM I WAS RIDING ABOUT 6MTHS B/4 MY FIRST TRACK DAY, AND IT WAS AN EFFIN BLAST! A TRUE ADDICTION. MOST TRACK DAY ASSO. HAVE NOOB DAYS OR NOOB SESSIONS. LSTD IS SUPPOSE TO HAVE SOME TRACKDAYS AT GRAND SPORT AND I HAVE HEARD THAT WILL BE A GREAT LEARNING TOOL.
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I think as soon as you start to feel confident on the street, take it to the track
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When you are comfortable with your bike and have little fear in leaning/turning (too much fear is not good at the track because it's about speed and lean). The most important thing is a desire to learn to want to go fast and scraping knee puck. If you don't have this desire, then the track is not for you.
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I had close to 6 months on my bike before going to my first trackday and the one thing I quickly realized was that I've been riding my bike in way to low of an RPM band. The 250 likes being in the +9K range and I've been short shifting. Didn't pose a problem on the streets for day to day commuting but on the track I constantly found my self in way too high in gearing and not being in the proper gear entering and coming out of turns ... very frustrating ... but I learned A LOT in that one day ... and though I sucked at the track I'm ready to go back ... just got to find the time.
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I had close to 6 months on my bike before going to my first trackday and the one thing I quickly realized was that I've been riding my bike in way to low of an RPM band. The 250 likes being in the +9K range and I've been short shifting. Didn't pose a problem on the streets for day to day commuting but on the track I constantly found my self in way too high in gearing and not being in the proper gear entering and coming out of turns ... very frustrating ... but I learned A LOT in that one day ... and though I sucked at the track I'm ready to go back ... just got to find the time.
good to hear you made it out to the track. almost every bike runs best in the higher rpm. it's where the powerband of the bike is

how did you like the 250 on the track? not too far off the 600's huh?
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It seems like the track is what our bikes were made to ride.
After riding the track and feeling how the bike runs, I lost alot of interest in riding the street at all.
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good to hear you made it out to the track. almost every bike runs best in the higher rpm. it's where the powerband of the bike is

how did you like the 250 on the track? not too far off the 600's huh?
The start of the day was rough ... the round robbin, while fun, was a lot faster than I had expected ... I think it's a little tough to expect a 250 to keep up with the instructor's 600+ bikes, but I think given time and experience that should change. The last couple session of the day clicked for me and while I wasn't particulary much faster, I was noticably much smoother and more confident.

Tonnes of fun. Want to try an LSTD event one day, for now I'm just waiting for Buck to schedule another noob day.
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The start of the day was rough ... the round robbin, while fun, was a lot faster than I had expected ... I think it's a little tough to expect a 250 to keep up with the instructor's 600+ bikes, but I think given time and experience that should change. The last couple session of the day clicked for me and while I wasn't particulary much faster, I was noticably much smoother and more confident.

Tonnes of fun. Want to try an LSTD event one day, for now I'm just waiting for Buck to schedule another noob day.
You should come out on the 18th with the free instruction.
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You should come out on the 18th with the free instruction.
or come out on the 24th at buck's trackday.....i'm signed up, and willing to work with you for a few sessions to get you moving.
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Or do both and get the extra seat time
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or come out on the 24th at buck's trackday.....i'm signed up, and willing to work with you for a few sessions to get you moving.
msr-h is a great track with longhorn motorcycle school also jimmy"zx6 will be there and will help you out with anything you need
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