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Old 10-30-2007, 01:54 PM   #61
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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours"
Who said that! I WANT NAMES!!
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Who said that! I WANT NAMES!!

Why do you want the names?
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"When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me."

HOLY .!!!!!!!!!! post of the year folks....POTY!
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Why do you want the names?
To find credibility.
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To find credibility.

Isn't the logic of the quote itself credible enough?
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My $.02 would be that not enough people spend enough time looking for the church that's right for them. Too many people go and get get disenchanted too quickly. Finding the right place for you to worship takes time (usually). It took my wife and I about a year when we moved to Houston to find our church home. We went to about 3 or 4 differetn denominations and about 10 different churches more than once each. I have since relocated to Austin (been over a year now) and my wife and I still have not joined a church yet. We have been to several and are close, but not one just yet...

Take it or leave it, that's my opinion.
I would have to disagree. My parents tried out several chruches before we decided to joing Memorial Drive Presbytarian Church. And when I moved out I searched for my own church, and I never found a preacher that i enjoyed as much Dave Peterson. He is still there, tells great stories and keeps you intertained, its the surrounding ppl I find fake. I dont think I can describe in words what I am trying to say.
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Good point Sir Arturo, IMO there is a direct connection between one's level of education and one's belief in . Most of the bible beaters running around are uneducated.

Religion is the crutch of the weak man.
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Nope.
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Good point Sir Arturo, IMO there is a direct connection between one's level of education and one's belief in . Most of the bible beaters running around are uneducated.

Religion is the crutch of the weak man.
George Washington, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln,Winston Chruchill, J. F. Kennedy...
Your right, all pretty week needing a crutch like religion!
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Your right, all pretty week needing a crutch like religion!
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Your right, all pretty week needing a crutch like religion!

" In summary, then, Jefferson was a deist because he believed in one , in divine providence, in the divine moral law, and in rewards and punishments after death; but did not believe in supernatural revelation. He was a Christian deist because he saw Christianity as the highest expression of natural religion and Jesus as an incomparably great moral teacher. He was not an orthodox Christian because he rejected, among other things, the doctrines that Jesus was the promised Messiah and the incarnate Son of . Jefferson's religion is fairly typical of the American form of deism in his day."
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on John Adams - 2nd president of the USA

"He believed in the essential goodness of the creation, but did not believe in the divinity of Christ or that intervened in the affairs of individuals. Although not anti-clerical, he advocated the separation of church and state. He also believed that regular church service was beneficial to man's moral sense. Everett concludes that "Adams strove for a religion based on a common sense sort of reasonableness" and maintained that religion must change and evolve toward perfection.

Adams often railed against what he saw as overclaiming of authority by the Catholic church"
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" In summary, then, Jefferson was a deist because he believed in one , in divine providence, in the divine moral law, and in rewards and punishments after death; but did not believe in supernatural revelation. He was a Christian deist because he saw Christianity as the highest expression of natural religion and Jesus as an incomparably great moral teacher. He was not an orthodox Christian because he rejected, among other things, the doctrines that Jesus was the promised Messiah and the incarnate Son of . Jefferson's religion is fairly typical of the American form of deism in his day."

It's more simple that this, just flip a one $ bill over...
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They were also masons?
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