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Old 10-23-2007, 11:05 AM   #21
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Another con switching from riding GP shift sportbike to non gp shift street bikes.
yeah.....sucks. i need to find a way to rig my crf100 to gp shift. haha
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:06 AM   #22
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:31 AM   #25
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I do it on all my bikes just takes good timing to sync the gears.
Imagine downshift 2 or 3 gear and break hard in the corner at highspeed.
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just preference......reason for 2 different shift patterns is like for example....right and left hand people....some feel more comfortable using one or the other.
GP shift is supposed to be better, because some people dont hook it up enough at times, and get a false neutral....now they have lost 1-2 second off their lap time by making that mistake.
gpshift is not made on bikes, people made mistake when installing or repairing the bike and discovered that it could be different. IMO
You have to upshift and downshift all the time so it is the same action up or down. You coudl mis-shift either way.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:35 AM   #26
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so far we have:

Pros:
  • Prevents missing gears
  • Ease of shifting through the corners
  • More ground clearance because foot isn't under shifter

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  • Mistakes
  • Casey Stoner does it.
clearance seems to be the best answer but still, in maximum lean no time to change gears until after the apex which the bike is already up.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:05 PM   #27
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yeah.....sucks. i need to find a way to rig my crf100 to gp shift. haha
HAHAHA I have the same problem with my crf150. I'll ride my bike to my moms to go ride my dirt bike and when I get back on the Duc I forget its gp style, I remember real quick though. Hey let me know if you find a way to rig it up.
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all my bikes get switched to gp shift. I don't miss gears while flogging it anymore. to me it is more natural to start in 1st gear at the top and step down to run through the gears.
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i love gp shift, i have it on both my bikes
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From what I heard, they use GP shifting so when you are leaned in and have your foot on the peg, and you come out of a turn and want to upshift, you don't have to put the foot under the peg, risking scraping your boot or plain not having the room due to lean angle.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but that is what I was told.

I rode a GP shift bike once, it takes a bit to think before you shift but I am sure with practise, it becomes second nature. I actually often mishift on my VFR and always joke that I should probably switch to GP shift , but they don't make rearsets for the VFR.
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I doubt anyone would shift in maximum lean. Imagine you are in maximum lean, are you downshift, upshifting or should you already be in a lowest gear and accelerate out of the turn?
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Imagine downshift 2 or 3 gear and break hard in the corner at highspeed.

gpshift is not made on bikes, people made mistake when installing or repairing the bike and discovered that it could be different. IMO
You have to upshift and downshift all the time so it is the same action up or down. You coudl mis-shift either way.

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actually.....all "full on race" bikes (gp bikes) come factory GP shift. like the tz's, nsr's, Ride Smart's.

and it is better (well it's not good either way but) to mis-shift coming into a corner than exiting.....exiting with a mis-shift will cause you to lose more time than to mis-shift coming into the corner.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:49 PM   #34
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another con coiuld be cost. for kawasakis you only have flip the linkage upside down to have gp shift. but some bikes you have to buy a part. like on a r6 for example.
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no not in lean, but the heel doesn't have to shift around the peg while rounding a turn... that takes time and balance when your mind needs to be on other things
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Mine is set up GP shift, and I prefer it a LOT more. My main reason for doing it is the 1-2 upshift. My trans pretty much sucks, and it's a lot easier to push down, making sure i don't hit a false neutral. Feels like a much more positive engagement. I don't have much of a problem riding a standard shift bike either.
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another con coiuld be cost. for kawasakis you only have flip the linkage upside down to have gp shift. but some bikes you have to buy a part. like on a r6 for example.
With the 2006 r6 you don't need extra parts you only have to flip the linkage and you have gp shift takes about 5 min to do.
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I doubt anyone would shift in maximum lean. Imagine you are in maximum lean, are you downshift, upshifting or should you already be in a lowest gear and accelerate out of the turn?
It doesn't happen often, but I run out of gear at MSRH while still leaned over to far to put my foot under the shifter. With GP shift I just push down and change to 3rd.

BTW, you don't have to be at maximum lean for it not to have enough room to put you toes under the shifter.
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another con coiuld be cost. for kawasakis you only have flip the linkage upside down to have gp shift. but some bikes you have to buy a part. like on a r6 for example.
my 06 R6 can be either without buying.
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