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Old 10-23-2007, 10:16 AM   #1
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GP shift vs standard

I was thinking the other day, why do they have gp shifting? It's just not natural to push up to go down a gear. The only thing that I could think of for this method is the quickshift kit on it. Since the quickshifting kit works on the up motion, maybe this is why they uses it at MotoGP. Quickshifting works best in downshift modes right?
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:21 AM   #2
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I thought they have gp shifting for fast left hand turns so they don't have to shortshift.

I myself would probably never get it. I ride other bikes and that would get me all messed up.
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From what I heard, they use GP shifting so when you are leaned in and have your foot on the peg, and you come out of a turn and want to upshift, you don't have to put the foot under the peg, risking scraping your boot or plain not having the room due to lean angle.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but that is what I was told.

I rode a GP shift bike once, it takes a bit to think before you shift but I am sure with practise, it becomes second nature. I actually often mishift on my VFR and always joke that I should probably switch to GP shift , but they don't make rearsets for the VFR.
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[QUOTE=Faylaricia;812440]From what I heard, they use GP shifting so when you are leaned in and have your foot on the peg, and you come out of a turn and want to upshift, you don't have to put the foot under the peg, risking scraping your boot or plain not having the room due to lean angle.

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thus why tonight I switch to GP shifting.
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Casey Stoner uses regular shifting patter...and look where he is now.
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It is so much easier to grab a gear in/out of a corner.
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From what I heard, they use GP shifting so when you are leaned in and have your foot on the peg, and you come out of a turn and want to upshift, you don't have to put the foot under the peg, risking scraping your boot or plain not having the room due to lean angle.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but that is what I was told.

I rode a GP shift bike once, it takes a bit to think before you shift but I am sure with practise, it becomes second nature. I actually often mishift on my VFR and always joke that I should probably switch to GP shift , but they don't make rearsets for the VFR.
That's what one of my friend believe. I have to disagreed. I don't think that anyone should fish for gear in maximum lean angle but when you are at apex and after, you can change gear.
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It is so much easier to grab a gear in/out of a corner.
upward or downward motion is the same speed or action.
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it takes some practice getting used to it, but I like it. But since I ride other bikes, I occasionally downshift when I want to upshift and vice versa. it hasn't hurt too bad yet, but it's given me a few scares a time or two.

i also think it's easier when you get the hang of it.
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I like the GP shift pattern better than the standard pattern. It does take a little while to get used to it. When accelerating and going through the gears, it is easier for me to push down than to pull up on the shift lever.
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it's all preference....

but i find it easier now that i have switched to gp shift. i never miss a gear while shifting up now.
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it's all preference....

but i find it easier now that i have switched to gp shift. i never miss a gear while shifting up now.
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upward or downward motion is the same speed or action.
If they where the same then there would be no reason to label them differently.
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it's all preference....

but i find it easier now that i have switched to gp shift. i never miss a gear while shifting up now.
get a shifter kit and do it gp shift with your slipper clutch, guaranteed that you will have faster entry and cornering speed. At TWS (Texas World Speedway), guaranteed to save you 5 sec.
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If they where the same then there would be no reason to label them differently.
That's why I am trying to find the best answer because I don't buy just preference. There has to be a real reason for this not to be different.
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Have you tried downshifting without using clutch?
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so far we have:

Pros:
  • Prevents missing gears
  • Ease of shifting through the corners
  • More ground clearance because foot isn't under shifter

Cons:
  • Mistakes
  • Casey Stoner does it.
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Have you tried downshifting without using clutch?
I do it on all my bikes just takes good timing to sync the gears.
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get a shifter kit and do it gp shift with your slipper clutch, guaranteed that you will have faster entry and cornering speed. At TWS (Texas World Speedway), guaranteed to save you 5 sec.
slipper clutch cost me enough....quickshifter will come next season, maybe.

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That's why I am trying to find the best answer because I don't buy just preference. There has to be a real reason for this not to be different.
just preference......reason for 2 different shift patterns is like for example....right and left hand people....some feel more comfortable using one or the other.

GP shift is supposed to be better, because some people dont hook it up enough at times, and get a false neutral....now they have lost 1-2 second off their lap time by making that mistake.
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Another con switching from riding GP shift sportbike to non gp shift street bikes.
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