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Old 10-22-2007, 11:46 AM   #1
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anyone have experience training dogs?

Just bought an english springer spaniel b/c a buddy of mine had one a long time ago and it was a BADASS hunting dog. So...does anyone know how to go about training it to point and/or retrieve? is it possible to do both? I've found a ton of info online so I'm pretty sure I can handle it but its always good to have a veteran's P.O.V.
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not all dogs can be trained like you wanted to be. You might try with your prospect but it might not turn out to be the one.
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Does he show potential? does he fetch or point naturally sometimes?
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cant train all dogs, some just have a will to listen...
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He fetches, retrieval is about 50% of the time. But when I picked him up the breeder showed me that all 6 of the pups were already pointing. Springer Spaniels are typically strong hunting dogs. I've known people with this breed before and even the ones that arent gun dogs are extrememly smart and know LOTS of tricks
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well if its in the blood line then most should come natural
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yeah pointing should come natural. getting them to hold a point until you flush and fire, then retrieve and bring it to hand after you shoot...is a totally different story...that being said...anyone have any experience training dogs?
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He fetches, retrieval is about 50% of the time. But when I picked him up the breeder showed me that all 6 of the pups were already pointing. Springer Spaniels are typically strong hunting dogs. I've known people with this breed before and even the ones that arent gun dogs are extrememly smart and know LOTS of tricks
What were the pups pointing at? Were the tail straight or downward? Did you notice the stance of the pups?

It may be breed for hunting but not all spaniels have the abilities. You are lucky if you have one that will learn what you teach it. Many are scared to the sound of gunfire.
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If this is a natural then you should have no problems with fetching. All the training is done.
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What were the pups pointing at? Were the tail straight or downward? Did you notice the stance of the pups?

It may be breed for hunting but not all spaniels have the abilities. You are lucky if you have one that will learn what you teach it. Many are scared to the sound of gunfire.

he had rabbits in a pen in his back yard, he let one dog out at a time and let them run around until they noticed the rabbit in the cage. This one had his tail straight out, one foot up, nose straight.

I know alot of them are gunshy. You can use a starter pistol and maybe break them from that. And just b/c a dog will naturally point doesnt mean that 'all the training is done'. Its a natural instinct. pointing and fetching are two different things. So yeah thanks for the advice level5. Anyone have any useful knowledge?
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I have a black lab that I started but ran out of time and she just became a pet. But I got a video, they are very useful if you are going to do it yourself. As far as I know, you can't have a pointer point and fetch. I think one takes from the other, but don't quote me on that. The videos helped out a lot. Good luck with it, I'm jealous. haha.
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yeah I was wondering if you could train a dog for 'dual-sport'! haha. But I know i've seen pointers go get the birds that they point after they are taken...I dont know if this would qualify as 'fetching'. I've heard that you cant train them for both pointing and WATERFOWL hunting. I guess we'll see huh?
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I figured it was instinctual to the breed. They should just start doing it.
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