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Old 02-14-2008, 01:41 PM   #21
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Changed my oil at 25 miles and saw a bit of pretty, sparkly stuff in the oil (the pretty, sparkly stuff is not good to be running through your engine).

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Why would you get your first oil change between 30-60 miles?
alot of people say engines are broken in alot soon than a person might think.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:49 PM   #23
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Your FIRST oil change should be done at a dealership, unless you want to void your warranty...
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WRONG !!!!

How much misinformation can be put in one thread? A lot it seems.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:02 PM   #25
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IS NOT NEED TO CHANGE IT AT 30 - 60 MILES THATS SO STUPED
Typing in all caps with misspelled words is no way to call others stupid and changing the oil shortly after a bikes first run is by no means a bad idea. Changing your oil everytime you ride is not a bad idea. Excessive possibly but changing the oil in a motor is never a bad idea. Unless of course you do not know how to properly change the oil.
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alot of people say engines are broken in alot soon than a person might think.
I agree, warm her up, let it rip, change oil, repeat.
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I've done all mine myself. The one problem(four times) I had covered under warranty they didn't care at all.
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Some people need to read the Magnusson Moss Act. Here is a short piece that should relieve you of concerns about only using stealerships for parts or service.

"Tie-In Sales" Provisions
Generally, tie-in sales provisions are not allowed. Such a provision would require a purchaser of the warranted product to buy an item or service from a particular company to use with the warranted product in order to be eligible to receive a remedy under the warranty. The following are examples of prohibited tie-in sales provisions.

In order to keep your new Plenum Brand Vacuum Cleaner warranty in effect, you must use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled maintenance performed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance Company, Inc., voids this warranty.

While you cannot use a tie-in sales provision, your warranty need not cover use of replacement parts, repairs, or maintenance that is inappropriate for your product. The following is an example of a permissible provision that excludes coverage of such things.

While necessary maintenance or repairs on your AudioMundo Stereo System can be performed by any company, we recommend that you use only authorized AudioMundo dealers. Improper or incorrectly performed maintenance or repair voids this warranty.

Although tie-in sales provisions generally are not allowed, you can include such a provision in your warranty if you can demonstrate to the satisfaction of the FTC that your product will not work properly without a specified item or service. If you believe that this is the case, you should contact the warranty staff of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection for information on how to apply for a waiver of the tie-in sales prohibition.
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Hmmm well sorry for misinforming, but that is what I was told back in '05 when I got the only "new" bike I have ever had.

All my other bikes I would just abuse and do the work on my own.
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I agree, warm her up, let it rip, change oil, repeat.
i've read that they used to say so many miles then the engine is broke in but never told people they are actually pretty much broke in by the time you drive home with it brand new. but people wont except that so they just kept saying the same mileage. I change my oil after every couple track days.
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bottom line: NO it will not "hurt" your engine to go out and ride it tomorrow with that mileage on it.

Change the oil and filter with good quality stuff sometime within the first 500 miles and regularly after that and you will be good to go for many miles.
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I've read numerous private funded tests that said the fram filter media looses adhesion and pieces off in your motor.
I'll never use fram again.
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Racer, you might know (I can't find it), have you heard of the "oil guru" or something like that. That guy was pretty good. I think he did air filters as well. In his shed or something like that.
He always had some good info to read.
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All about oil filters.

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i've seen a blog where dude cut apart a bunch of filters, and yeah fram was pretty sucky.

bobtheoilguy is a forum for oil heads........lol
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