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Old 10-17-2007, 09:56 AM   #1
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How SLOW can you ride?

GB's & SB's commentary got me thinking...


How SLOW can you ride? That is, what is the slowest speed YOU can ride and maintain a straight line?

Can you pull a u-turn on a 2 lane road without putting your feet down?
(can you do it on an old country road.. you know the ones that are maybe 1.5 lanes in width?)
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:58 AM   #2
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I can ride pretty slow. I am not sure of the speed. But I rock the bars back in forth to keep balance. And I can make a 180 turn on a 2 lane road with no problem.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:01 AM   #3
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i can't do a u-turn in 2 lanes, the busa's turning radius is slightly less than 300 feet but really, it does suck. and my speedo doesn't really move below 10mph, but i can keep a straight line at slower than the typical walking pace
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:03 AM   #4
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A couple of friends and I played around with the MSF book in a parking lot a couple months before my crash:
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How SLOW can you ride? That is, what is the slowest speed YOU can ride and maintain a straight line?
Walking speed. Had someone walk next to me and was able not to go faster than he did.

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Can you pull a u-turn on a 2 lane road without putting your feet down?
We tried the 'box' but with the VFR, it didn't quite work. The handlebar hits the fairing. I got about 2-lane road wide in my figure eights.
When I do a u-turn on a road though, I still put my feet down and tip toe a couple of steps. She is a heavy pig and I still need way more practise.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:05 AM   #5
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I timed my kid dead stop for 5 full minutes he was covered with sweat at the end of that. I think he could turn a bike around in its own length I can usually set the bar against the stop and turn so however tight the bar stop is that is how tight the bike turns.

to keep balance with the bar against the stop rev the engine quite a bit and use the clutch to move your self away or closer to the center.
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aren't those the skills they teach at the MSF? go slow for a certain distance, pause, speed up to the second section then go slow again. they also had a box for doing a figure 8.
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aren't those the skills they teach at the MSF? go slow for a certain distance, pause, speed up to the second section then go slow again. they also had a box for doing a figure 8.
Yep...

...but how many folx do you think continue to practice it.
...and then the folx that never take MSF. :-)

...and SB, I was thinking about asking type bike too. Makes a bit of difference in 'ease' of doing some of the things. I could ride the old 250 cruisers they used in MSF at a crawl, trying it on a DS was much more
difficult of an experience.
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...but how many folx do you think continue to practice it.
...and then the folx that never take MSF. :-)
Good point. I never practice the u turns :/: only when i'm out riding and have to turn around. I get to practice slow riding though, rush hour and construction sucks
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Yep...

...but how many folx do you think continue to practice it.
...and then the folx that never take MSF. :-)

...and SB, I was thinking about asking type bike too. Makes a bit of difference in 'ease' of doing some of the things. I could ride the old 250 cruisers they used in MSF at a crawl, trying it on a DS was much more
difficult of an experience.
i can turn the 50 around in 10 feet, the busa on the other hand... not so much!!
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...and SB, I was thinking about asking type bike too.

On the 250, the u-turns sure were a lot easier than on the VFR and some days they are easier on the VFR than others. Not sure why. :/:

The xr100, u-turns = 0 issues.
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I wonder what kind of radius those stunter guys can manage when they're doing circle whoolies?
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On the 250, the u-turns sure were a lot easier than on the VFR and some days they are easier on the VFR than others. Not sure why. :/:

The xr100, u-turns = 0 issues.
wind or road slope angle?
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Can you pull a u-turn on a 2 lane road without putting your feet down?
(can you do it on an old country road.. you know the ones that are maybe 1.5 lanes in width?)
Really the best way to do this is go faster then lock up the backend with your brake slide it until you are going sideways then turn back the other way. I pratice this alot in parking lots and it is a BLAST.
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I can ride slow because the MSF taught me. Especially helped me with U-turns. Gotta look into where you're going and the bike will just go. So cool.
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After I took the MSF course, I bought some range cones that they use from the MSF and practice the drills in a park close to the house. The P&W people usually don't say anything once they understand what I am trying to do.

I called Awsome Cycles and got the dimensions on the u-turn drill and I will say that is not easy on a sport bike and has been the closest I have been so far to dropping it.

I think they have a wonder full program and practicing like I do from time to time really helps my riding when in the city and stuck in traffic.
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I think it has more to do with the form I am in that day and how much I really worry about making the turn. When I first got the VFR, I did the whole neighborhood thing again and did u-turns just fine. Lately, I was worried about dropping the bike and it screwed up the u-turn big time.
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After I took the MSF course, I bought some range cones that they use from the MSF and practice the drills in a park close to the house. The P&W people usually don't say anything once they understand what I am trying to do.

I called Awsome Cycles and got the dimensions on the u-turn drill and I will say that is not easy on a sport bike and has been the closest I have been so far to dropping it.

I think they have a wonder full program and practicing like I do from time to time really helps my riding when in the city and stuck in traffic.
so what are the dimensions for the box?
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so what are the dimensions for the box?
2 1/2 wide by 2 long.
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Just wondering.
I thought sport bikes were supposed to turn tighter than cruisers no?
Or is it just in high speed turns?
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2 1/2 wide by 2 long.
what units are those? bike lengths? car lengths?
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