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Old 10-15-2007, 07:37 AM   #21
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Getting on a motorcycle and riding is about acceptable risk. Everybody who gets on is willing to fall off.
All of these accidents that we have are people on bikes that accepted that risk. They were doing what they wanted (or loved) and none were forced to ride. This choice is one of the hardest concept for some members on this forum to comprehend.


You have to make a choice if riding a bike is still an acceptable risk for you. If its not, then it is time to get rid of it. But remember that no matter the details of accidents and the fallen we remember, they were doing what they loved. You will have to honest with yourself when you decide.

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Old 10-15-2007, 08:03 AM   #22
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^ I agree...we have three kids and yet we still both ride. It is a risk...but then again so is life. Riding is not the way I would choose to leave this world but I know it is a possibility.
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I agree too...my girlfriend and her daughter (we all live together) love to ride...My girlfriend was at one point wanting to ride and wanted to get her own bike and we almost did. Her daughter told her she was afraid of her riding one by herself. So she has decided she'll just ride two up with me on occassion. Every time I go out for a ride I think to myself, "I need to be careful because I want to come back home to them." Not so much that I'm afraid to crash but I would hate to leave and never return.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:31 AM   #24
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I too have thought about this quite alot latly, ive been riding for a little over a year now, and have seen my fair share of RIP threads and wrecks. Sadly, most of the time on the street it is become someone was either, not paying attention to you, or was pushing their limit. Thats why when I ride the streets I wear my gear, and make sure all my mirrors get checked and i make eye contact with people before i pass or make any move. Plus wearing a bright helmet helps them see me. But, I am still going to sell my bike.


And come back with something bigger and better next riding season.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:44 AM   #25
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if its your time its your time there is no increasing or decreasing your chances, when its your time to die its your time no matter what we do its already decided.
That's correct..!! There's no coincidences. That's decided by the "powers-to be".
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:02 AM   #26
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if its your time its your time there is no increasing or decreasing your chances, when its your time to die its your time no matter what we do its already decided.

That's correct..!! There's no coincidences. That's decided by the "powers-to be"."

If you put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger... was it your time or not?
Or is that soley determined by wether you survive it or not?

If ALL is predetermined...then 'suicide', or the act of 'killing' one's self is impossible.



Life is full of inherent dangers and risks...it is a basic fact. Sometimes despite all precautions, accidents happen. Sometimes, because precations were/are taken accidents are avoided, or their severity/impact is reduced.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:14 AM   #27
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That being said, you could just as easily pass in a car accident or falling down a flight of stairs.
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I've witnessed a pretty bad car accident not too long ago and one could now think that we shouldn't drive cars anymore because they are dangerous.

Just be careful with whatever you do and give yourself the best chances for surviving. And sometimes, it is just pure luck.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:20 AM   #28
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I couldn't help but post in here....not an awkward feeling at all to think about giving up your riding. For me, this is probably my last season riding the streets although I will be taking it to the track more often. I too have feelings of giving up the sport all together, but I don't think our friends would want us to do that. They liked riding just as much as we do. I'll be taking a few steps back and probably not swing my leg over the bike for a few weeks. This is definitely a reality check....
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When I 1st bought my gsxr 750, 5yrs ago it was my very 1st 2-wheeled anything, and I don't think since then had I EVER seriously THOUGHT about the pricey risk of riding.

So i rode that bike and even my new bike to the limit (or at least my limit) EVERYTIME I jumped on it. On a typical wed or fri or sat night, i'd get the normal text or call "hey u riding?" and i'd meet at pp1, we'll RACE around the loop, or the short loop, or various freeway rides, come back to pp1 to laugh and giggle and do it again the next day.... of course this was all FUN FOR ME!!!! Even battled it out here on MH on a couple of occassions DEFENDING WHY we did it!

Last wed I went on the same ride and someone who hadn't ridden with me in awhile asked me 1 ? when we got back to pp1 "why are u riding so conservatively, that's not like u" and I had to explain...it took one life changing experience for me to even began to think about the consequences......having a best friend who u talked to and rode with everyday, ate with his family and spent time in their home, who was only 7 days younger than myself, pass away is what will do it.

I miss Eric Roman EVERYTIME I jump on the moto, and days like 5/9/07 and 10/13/07 where people like him and Matt pay the ultimate toll just to have fun makes riding not worth it IMO, I don't want to loose anyone else, but in reality I know I will, and that grim thought puts me into submission everytime I ride, and it makes riding not FUN anymore, so I see myself reaching an intolerable thought of not riding anymore more and more until I see myself not. As disgusting as that sounds, it's almost inevitable
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:37 AM   #32
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I don't want to loose anyone else, but in reality I know I will, and that grim thought puts me into submission everytime I ride, and it makes riding not FUN anymore, so I see myself reaching an intolerable thought of not riding anymore more and more until I see myself not. As disgusting as that sounds, it's almost inevitable
couldn't agree with you more!

people who know me know i don't ride crazy and even though i do ride defensively, i always look at cars i pass on fwy to see what they are doing or why they are driving below the speed limit or ETC. and there have been numorus time when i see people driving their cars talking on the phone, chatting with others in the car not paying attention, READING, all while driving and have had a few almost change into my lanes without looking and it makes me realize that one day i might not be so sharp on riding defensively. i know we all do what the cagers do but majority of them don't ride so the cagers don't know to look out for us and feel that one day, i may not be so lucky.

yes i know can take you out anytime he wants but at the same time, right now may be giving me a warning that it is time to get rid of it.

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Old 10-15-2007, 09:43 AM   #34
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It's just a phase you are going through. There will always be new riders, old riders, and people gave up riding. "When it's your time, you will go" they say. "some days i don't ride simply because i get a bad feeling every now and then even before stepping outside. i don't know if it's just me or if everyone gets feelings like this?" listen to yourself, quit while you're ahead.
Track riding is dangerous too, unless you putt around the track but even with that it's dangerous to hold up traffic. Go with your feeling, instinct.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:44 AM   #35
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I have become numb to all of the accidents...I know that it will continue and that there is nothing I can do or say to help stop the situation from happening. Fact of life is that if you live, you're going to die. You can minimize the risk by doing the smart thing like riding responsibly. But riding responsibly is different to each and every individual. It is up to you to make the best decision that benefits you and your family. When someone dies, it doesn't hurt them, it only hurts the ones that loved them. I believe that the accidents and deaths that you read on MH were preventable. Many of the deaths were single vehicle accidents. Which means no one else was at fault but themselves for the actions that they took and the precaustions they failed to take. So think about that the next time you try to play catch up with that group of squids, or the next time you go blindly into a corner. You never know what is going to happen.
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I've been going back and forth on what to do also. I know that it can happen ANYWHERE any time....but I have a 2yr old and one on the way in Dec. and just not sure that it's worth the risk. I LIVE for my family, and the bike is just a perk....relly don't know what to do.
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If you put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger... was it your time or not?
Or is that soley determined by wether you survive it or not?

If ALL is predetermined...then 'suicide', or the act of 'killing' one's self is impossible.
Life is full of inherent dangers and risks...it is a basic fact. Sometimes despite all precautions, accidents happen. Sometimes, because precations were/are taken accidents are avoided, or their severity/impact is reduced.
you know we all could go on and on about this but everybody has different opinions.
if its your time its your time there are no increaseing or decreasing your chances, you can do what you love to do wether its riding motocycles, skydiving, fliyng planes and live to your 100 or you can play it safe your whole life and get killed by a drunk driver that ran a stop sign and crashed into your bedroom at 3am in the morning. thats why there called accidents we didnt mean for it to happen but if it did then there is a reason for it.
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I've been going back and forth on what to do also. I know that it can happen ANYWHERE any time....but I have a 2yr old and one on the way in Dec. and just not sure that it's worth the risk. I LIVE for my family, and the bike is just a perk....relly don't know what to do.
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you know we all could go on and on about this but everybody has different opinions.
if its your time its your time there are no increaseing or decreasing your chances, you can do what you love to do wether its riding motocycles, skydiving, fliyng planes and live to your 100 or you can play it safe your whole life and get killed by a drunk driver that ran a stop sign and crashed into your bedroom at 3am in the morning. thats why there called accidents we didnt mean for it to happen but if it did then there is a reason for it.
You're in denial. You play with fire and one day you will bound to be burn.
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you know we all could go on and on about this but everybody has different opinions.
if its your time its your time there are no increaseing or decreasing your chances, you can do what you love to do wether its riding motocycles, skydiving, fliyng planes and live to your 100 or you can play it safe your whole life and get killed by a drunk driver that ran a stop sign and crashed into your bedroom at 3am in the morning. thats why there called accidents we didnt mean for it to happen but if it did then there is a reason for it.
It's an excuse that removes the freedom of choice from the equation...

Ride intelligently, ride safely and your chances of survival greatly improve.
'Predestination' is not an excuse for bad choices and behaviour.
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