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Old 10-15-2007, 12:40 AM   #1
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with all these accidents that have been occuring, i have be messing with the idea of possibly selling my bike. i have a new-born on the way and would hate to think of my first child without a parent. it's getting scarey out there on the road. i see alot of distracted drivers out there and would hate to be another example. i guess i am thinking like this because of this lastest accident the hit real close home with our MH brother we lost.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:46 AM   #2
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take it to the track much safer. and you get to keep the bike
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For some people, a rash of accidents can be a wake-up call.
It can go either way - some get out of riding, some take it to the track, some go for the dirt and trails. Others of us use tragedy of any kind as a reminder that because you don't know how much time you have here, you should make the most of each and every day. That includes getting out and riding if it's something you love.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:54 AM   #4
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FWIW, the track is not always safer.

Granted it's a more controlled environment, but because you're typically pushing the edge of the envelope, you're more likely to find it.

That being said, you could just as easily pass in a car accident or falling down a flight of stairs.
Wear you gear, ride smart and you'll be o.k.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:54 AM   #5
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I try to learn from every "rider down" or "I wrecked" threads and try to be a better rider. Seems like every case has a reason to point to as to "why".

It is dangerous to wake up and cross a road to get on a bus, better to choose your poison than to let someone else choose.

And if you are worried about an accident, then make sure you have the skills to be out there, and full coverage and medical insurance "just in case"
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Death can hit you anywhere anytime. I see it on a daily basis. You might as well drive a tank and live in a vault. My theory is get your life right with whoever it is that you believe in so when that fateful day comes there will be no worries.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:14 AM   #7
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+1 selling your bike is kind of rash, like patrick says ride smart, and wear your gear. Accidents are always going to happen some sad some happy. All we can do is live life to the fullest, and do what makes you happy. If its riding then ride.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:41 AM   #8
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nothing can happen to any of us inside is Gods will...IMHO if its our time its our time. you can die walking to you car or eating popcorn..and i had the same thought when i found out, i was just about to call him about riding when i read azylums bulletin on myspace...but he wouldnt want any of us to sell our babies because of it.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:00 AM   #9
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hmmm why is that?

i really have been thinking about getting rid of it but just don't know if it's just because of the shock or what? some days i don't ride simply because i get a bad feeling every now and then even before stepping outside. i don't know if it's just me or if everyone gets feelings like this? i'm just not sure about keeping it anymore, but that's just me. i just don't know if i am just getting too paranoid
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nothing can happen to any of us inside is Gods will...IMHO if its our time its our time. you can die walking to you car or eating popcorn..and i had the same thought when i found out, i was just about to call him about riding when i read azylums bulletin on myspace...but he wouldnt want any of us to sell our babies because of it.
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yes i have days where i take my cage because i have a certain gut feeling its not just you
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I'll be honest. I need to get rid of my street bike. I never needed one. I love ridind bikes more than anything else in the world that I do. But, street riding has braught me nothing but big trouble, drama, broken bones, lost lots of money. I've seen my father broken real bad on the street along with alot of friends. Had a few good ones die too. If you in this scene long enough, you will see it all. Its a love/ hate hobby in my eyes. I try to calm down more an more after all the bs i've been through but something about the thirll of riding keeps me goin. Its hard to make real friends in sportbikes. When you do. They tend to be great.

I baught my street bike mainly just to cruze when I wanna blow some steam or chill on a nice day. Cage drivers can be nuts... sometime they will try to literally kill you. People say ride defensively...noway. Drive on the offence if you wanna survive for a longe time in my book. Nowadays it seems like I'm getting sucked futher into the H-town streetbike seen. Not every crowd you run into is good news either. Some groups out there going to get your in big trouble. Someriders are nuts and try to get people into that just is plane stupid and they dont give a rats if you are the one thats goin to get killed in the process. Now i im starting to get tired of street bs. I know what my limits are I usually don't ride to them on the street cause I don't want some fool to try to prove himself to me. I don't want to see people die around me ever.

A summer ago 2 friends and I strarted a bike group up here on the northside. We got a strong group together with some from MH. Yankee would ride with us freaquently. I don't know if anyone remebers back in march a big thread about my friend Bryan Walsh that I was riding with. That night he was killed. I think the whole MH site flamed his death and blew so much bullshit about it cause there was so many lies being spread about how it went down. After that happened or pack broke cause it took such a toll on us. He was loved out side the bike world just as much as Matt is to the bike world.... he was just new to bikes so you guys never knew him. Made some of my friends sell their bikes. Now after what happened to Matt. I don't blame anybody for rethinking their situation. What kills me... is for the way I have ridin in the past. I'm ashamed its not me in their place. Makes me ask why these things happen to the nicest people.

I love the track more than anything else. If I added all the bikes I've damaged or totaled or fines etc. I could have tricked out 2 new track bikes and paid for 2 race seaons full. Or be a ***ot an got one of a membership at some golf country club.

I am tossed up and could sell my street bike in the near future just to do the track. Not just cause I feel like its more safe but for all the reasons I spoke of above.

Like said above.... it can happen anytime. In your car, stairs, etc. There is nothing wrong with riding on the street if your smart about it. You have to know your limitations. So it all comes down to what kind of rider and what skill you have I guess.
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ask yourself how many of these "accidents" coulda been avoided?

quit hanging w/ the squids and your funeral attendance goes down ALOT.

and yes having a kid changes your perspectives on everything. maybe re-eval. your position after a while after your kid is born.

and +1 make sure your family doesn't have to suffer financially if you go i.e. lotsa life insurance (term life).
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FWIW, the track is not always safer.

Granted it's a more controlled environment, but because you're typically pushing the edge of the envelope, you're more likely to find it.

That being said, you could just as easily pass in a car accident or falling down a flight of stairs.
Wear you gear, ride smart and you'll be o.k.

I completly agree with that, I love riding TOO much just to give it up, granted the rash of accidents lately has brought some sence of awakening to me but If I were to have an wreck and walk away from it I would hope I would get back on it. That being said I would hate to see you get rid of your bike Rene, and would hope that you put some seious thought into this before you make a harsh call and sell it...
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It's about minimizing your risk! We all take some risk when we ride our bike, the only question is some take bigger risks than others. I for one try not to ride if rain is forecast, why? i want to minimize my risk by not riding in the rain. Rain decreases your visibility and greatly decreases your traction, thus increasing your risk! Wearing proper gear limits your risk from serious injury, riding within your skill level limits your risk, etc. etc,

Having said that, of course it is still posssible to get hurt on a bike or worse even when you ahve take all the appropriate measures to reduce your risk. That's the risk we take when we get on our bike or even our atomobile for that matter.
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FWIW, the track is not always safer.

Granted it's a more controlled environment, but because you're typically pushing the edge of the envelope, you're more likely to find it.

That being said, you could just as easily pass in a car accident or falling down a flight of stairs.
Wear you gear, ride smart and you'll be o.k.
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with all these accidents that have been occuring, i have be messing with the idea of possibly selling my bike. i have a new-born on the way and would hate to think of my first child without a parent. it's getting scarey out there on the road. i see alot of distracted drivers out there and would hate to be another example. i guess i am thinking like this because of this lastest accident the hit real close home with our MH brother we lost.
There are dangers everywhere, true, some of the accidents you read about are caused by distracted cagers, but real world, if you do some research, this site has many who go down because of rider error, in fact, there are so many to list but mainly items like : high rate of speed, populated area, no MSF, etc etc.
Its getting tragecally sad to see so many youngsters go down and never get up, and you'd think most would get tired of losing and or visiting downed friends.
Alas, some things never change, kids still do 150 mph+ in neighborhoods, and Scooter is still an for not condoning such actions and trying to wake some people up before its to late.
If one kid gets scared enough to slow down and ride safer, then it was worth it.
I don't agree with the group rides at spirited paces, the skill levels of the riders are varied and someone almost always goes down, even experienced riders, and we all know these rides take place on public streets.
All of this has proven to be a deadly mix on a weekly basis, but yet it still goes on and its still organized here.
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FWIW, the track is not always safer.

Granted it's a more controlled environment, but because you're typically pushing the edge of the envelope, you're more likely to find it.

That being said, you could just as easily pass in a car accident or falling down a flight of stairs.
Wear you gear, ride smart and you'll be o.k.
The track is dangerous, but you know why your there and the risks you take are pretty much limited to you and other riders aware of the dangers.
The track has ambulances on standby, the track has a controlled environment so a soccer mom on a cell phone cant pull out in front of you.
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Death can hit you anywhere anytime. I see it on a daily basis. You might as well drive a tank and live in a vault. My theory is get your life right with whoever it is that you believe in so when that fateful day comes there will be no worries.

that is not always say either...my wifes co worker died when she threw a dvt (deep vein thrombosis) while on the tread mill. Died within a couple minutes.
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