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Old 10-13-2007, 05:27 PM   #21
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see all this talk is what i was looking for, now someone buy my bike haha
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:32 PM   #22
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Quit messing around and get the 1098, or I have an awesome Ducati 999 with less than 2,600 miles I will make U a smoking deal on
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Quit messing around and get the 1098, or I have an awesome Ducati 999 with less than 2,600 miles I will make U a smoking deal on
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ZX10R man! Its a beast!! You wont be disappointed.

Oh and the headshake... turn the stock damper 1 click below full strength and it should cure it. Ive never got headshake on mine and ive had it up to 165 or so a few times. Never topped it out though. If your really worried about it, upgrade to a GPR or Scotts. Both will cure the headshake on a low setting but like i said, everyone says they shake but never happened to me. Patrick said its caused by the wrong air pressure in the front tire. Mine are set at 36 front and 34 rear.

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Having a liter bike is OVER RATED and a WASTE of money. NO ONE ON this board, including myself, has seen the full potential of a liter bike and never will, b/c quite honestly u never have that kind of need or available space for that kind of power on these streets. In the year I've had it, i've topped it out about 3 times and that was only for a few seconds, 99.9% of the time, i'm using the same power i'd get outta a suped up 600/750.

Unless ur drag racing, the liters and above are really good for nothing on a everyday basis. I'd buy another 600/750, add full exhaust, good tires, pc, tweek the cams, and u'd see the same sort of power u'd get everyday outta a liter, and would come out about 3 grand cheaper!!

Just my .02...and yes i have a liter bike.
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I actually love the new 10R other than the mirrors and exhaust.
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pm sent, true no one really needs a liter bike, but I love all of mine and once use to them they are awesome
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Quit messing around and get the 1098, or I have an awesome Ducati 999 with less than 2,600 miles I will make U a smoking deal on

whats a smokin deal??? I'll trade ya a kid....lol.
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I too second the 08 10R.

I had a 10R for 3 days....yes I said 3 days. Brute is what defines that thing. It went right back to the dealer for a 636. I considered going back to the 10R, but right now my finances will not allow that. In fact the more I ride the636 the more I fall in love with it.

Why would you want to get rid of the 636?
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The extra displacement of a liter bike on the street means not having to downshift to find good torque to pass on the highway/freeway.
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Put a fast rider on a fast bike and he'll be fast. Put the same rider on a smaller bike, and he'll still be fast, but can't turn the lap times of a 1K.
Everyone talks about being able to hang with a 1K on the street, but you can only go so fast there. You can't touch it on the track.
i think most best track times are set by 600's ?
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With a liter bike comes higher insurance rates. It's much easier to get yourself in trouble, as if a new IL4 600 didn't make it easy enough.

I don't know what the results would be but someone mentioned teh R6 had more HP than the 675. Is that peak or across the power band? How about lower down, where most people ride on the street? What are the HP and torque numbers there?

a rider on a 1000 beating a smaller bike or keeping up with/beating another rider on a 1000 is not impressive. If you put the first rider on a 600/675/750 and that rider beats or keeps up with the 1000, now that starts to get impressing.

Stick with the smaller bike, save some money, learn to ride it properly, be a better rider.
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With a liter bike comes higher insurance rates. It's much easier to get yourself in trouble, as if a new IL4 600 didn't make it easy enough.

I don't know what the results would be but someone mentioned teh R6 had more HP than the 675. Is that peak or across the power band? How about lower down, where most people ride on the street? What are the HP and torque numbers there?

a rider on a 1000 beating a smaller bike or keeping up with/beating another rider on a 1000 is not impressive. If you put the first rider on a 600/675/750 and that rider beats or keeps up with the 1000, now that starts to get impressing.

Stick with the smaller bike, save some money, learn to ride it properly, be a better rider.

+1...the 675 has more torque much lower in the band...that it why it is faster than all the 600's. As far as insurance goes I have it rough. My rc51 has higher insurance than most liter bikes for some strange reason, even though it has less hp than modern 1k's.
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i think most best track times are set by 600's ?

if 600's were faster around a track why would they even bother making them?
The fastest lap times set at Nürburgring were all set on liter bikes.
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if 600's were faster around a track why would they even bother making them?
The fastest lap times set at Nürburgring were all set on liter bikes.
what making 1000's? becuase of race series, how many 750SS bikes are out there? 2.........GSXR and Duc. how many 750 race series are there, none. that was the demise of the 750 street SS bikes.
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the 675 is the fastest of the 600 bikes. lighter and more torque. only the r6 has more hp...and only by a couple.
636 is king of 600's, IMO. http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/046_.../photo_01.html

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Having a liter bike is OVER RATED and a WASTE of money. NO ONE ON this board, including myself, has seen the full potential of a liter bike and never will, b/c quite honestly u never have that kind of need or available space for that kind of power on these streets. In the year I've had it, i've topped it out about 3 times and that was only for a few seconds, 99.9% of the time, i'm using the same power i'd get outta a suped up 600/750.
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If everyone think this way, everyone should buy a 3 or 4 cyl. car and put around to save gas, money, and enviroment. Nothing wrong with having reserved power. There's a saying, "work smarter not harder".

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With a liter bike comes higher insurance rates.

a rider on a 1000 beating a smaller bike or keeping up with/beating another rider on a 1000 is not impressive. If you put the first rider on a 600/675/750 and that rider beats or keeps up with the 1000, now that starts to get impressing.

Stick with the smaller bike, save some money, learn to ride it properly, be a better rider.
Insurance is sure higher on 1000.
Having a 600/750 beat a 1000 on the street is funny and won't likely happen. I have heard so many people wanted to mod out their 600/750 to beat a 1000 and hadn't seen it happen unless you put a beginner on a 1000.





Keep your 636 and take it to the track, you will enjoy it more. At the track, liter bike is a disadvantage. If you haven't been to the track, you should upgrade yourself instead of a bike.
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