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Old 10-12-2007, 12:48 AM   #1
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CBR Suspension

Ok on my bike, i was wondering if someone can tell me if I'm doing something wrong or just give me an opinion on what they think.

Well I started riding a few weeks ago and when i follow my friends, they have more experience and can take turns and lean like no other. I am getting better at trusting my bike but i feel like i cant lean like them. Then i rode their 636 ninja. Steering feels way different and more loose to lean side to side.

I took it turns and it feels more stable than my CBR and im not scared to lean the bike. I was wondering if my suspension is just so different on my bike that I have to lean harder or force it?? Or the other thing me and Costas notice was that my rear tire is flat in the middle and needs to be replaced. But cant tires really affect sterring and leaning??

Also, I did have my suspension tuned by Motorcycles Unlimited with my weight.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:53 AM   #2
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it's not your suspension, its your tires. tires are by far the most important part to our bikes. they are the only thing connecting us to the road. if they're worn funny, worn out, wrong tire pressure, mis matched, ANYTHING, they will affect how the bike handles and reacts.

you shouldn't feel like you're fighting the bike at all, especially not the 600rr, that bike is so intuitive it's (almost) boring. get the bike back together and get some tires. you'll love your bike a lot more than you do now.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:54 AM   #3
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man, once you get it back, i'm so not test riding it anymore LOL
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:55 AM   #4
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yes tires have a MAJOR effect on steering and leaning.

every tire has different characteristics....some are more round than others. tire pressure is also one of the BIGGEST effect on a ride. depending on brand of tire....your air pressure should be set to their standards, and adjusted to your liking.

seems more like you need to learn how to ride the bike better. i've owned a 636 before my 600rr.....they both felt the same on turn in....the 636 was a bit faster...but my 600rr feels more planted through the turns.
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makes sense....jsut didnt know if it was that bad. I was referencing my thoughts to costas and correct me if im wrong.... My tire now is flat in the middle.... So when i try to lean, its like trying roll and cube on the ground vs rolling a ball. SO when that happens, i have to force the bike....and when i do, i feel the rear tire slide a little.
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i've rode pretty hard on a squared off tire before....turn in feels different....but you shouldn't have to force the bike.

without sounding like an ....just from what you've told....you are not riding the bike correctly. if you don't learn the correct way, you'll start bad habits....and it's hard to break em. riding the bike incorrectly can also have you eating the pavement....or smashed up against a car or something. i'm not sure what part of town you are in.....but if you're in my neck of the woods....i'd be glad to show you a few things about riding....without even moving the bike.
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Nah im always up for some constructive criticism. Especially with bikes, i know there is still a lot i need to learn. Like I said, ive only been riding for 2 weeks. Self taught and I did that MSF too.

But yea, i want to learn how to ride properly. Me and costas watched this moto gp video where this pro was showing proper posture and leaning techniques.. But yea, a live demonstration would be koo. I also want to follow more experienced riders to see how they lean in turns and watch their body movements. Plenty of room to learn and I'm up for it.
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i'd take you around....but i gave up street riding early this year. (never thought that would happen)

yeah, i can show you about body position and a few different things with the bike stationary on a stand...you could always come out to the track also, and see it happen in real life. doesn't cost anything but your time.

i'll be at MSR-Houston (15 mins past pearland) if you want to come out saturday and i can show you a few things between sessions, and you can watch it happen
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yea dat would be koo.....me a few of my friends want to go out there one day.... i eventually want to ride the track but i want to learn my bike for at least the first month or so. but yea, im always working all the time but one day ill make it out there with some of my friends. Ill hit u up when i do and see if we can meet up.
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Get a few more miles under your belt and hit up a track day(LSTD group C, Ridesmart group 1 and n00b day w/buck LMS). My.02.

Also Google a book called twist of the wrist II by keith code theres lots of good info in there. Comfort plays a major roll in how you lean so maybe your more comfy on the Kawi than your CBR. Lean angle doesn't necesarily mean higher corner speed. Do a search on this site concerning the subject we have had a few threads with pics discussing it. Enjoy man this sport flippin rocks!
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I went for a short cruise around the neighborhood yesterday and I could tell immediatly that my front tire was alittle low because the front felt a little shakey around turns....got home and checked pressure after the tire cooled and it was about 4 psi light. Made a big difference...
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Make sure you go w/ a 180/55 rear tire. I know sometimes guys will stick a wider tire on there for the poser factor, but the 180/55 will turn in quicker. If you go to a reputable shop they will most likely recommend a 180/55, but some places might ask your preference. So, if they do, go w/ the 180...
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Make sure you go w/ a 180/55 rear tire. I know sometimes guys will stick a wider tire on there for the poser factor, but the 180/55 will turn in quicker. If you go to a reputable shop they will most likely recommend a 180/55, but some places might ask your preference. So, if they do, go w/ the 180...
Most guys are running the 190/55 now.
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If you don't feel safe with the bike bring it by the shop of your choice and have them look at it to see if anything is wrong or bent. Don't try to force yourself on it. It should be easy and comfortable not scary to ride.
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If you don't feel safe with the bike bring it by the shop of your choice and have them look at it to see if anything is wrong or bent. Don't try to force yourself on it. It should be easy and comfortable not scary to ride.
... and the 600RR should not be harder to turn in on.
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Get a few more miles under your belt and hit up a track day(LSTD group C, Ridesmart group 1 and n00b day w/buck LMS). My.02.

Also Google a book called twist of the wrist II by keith code theres lots of good info in there. Comfort plays a major roll in how you lean so maybe your more comfy on the Kawi than your CBR. Lean angle doesn't necesarily mean higher corner speed. Do a search on this site concerning the subject we have had a few threads with pics discussing it. Enjoy man this sport flippin rocks!
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