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Old 10-05-2007, 11:15 AM   #81
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IMO a responsible rider who has a firm grasp on the fundamentals of motorcycling would be fine moving from a 250 to a 600 or larger bike.

An irresponsible rider can kill himself just as quickly on just about any bike.

Torque = FTW on the street.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:33 AM   #82
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Did you not see my analogy of Rossi vs. Racer X? But then, I've seen Rossi crash at the track a few times. Hmmm...
Yeah, I remembered but seriously, I wonder if you are not into curves, twisties or speed, how does one behave at the track? I have seen 1st timer out on the track doing triple digits on the straight and speed in corners more than he/she can do it on the street. So as a safety instructor, do you tell yourself, keep it slow because 90mph is breaking the speed limit? In corners, do you get off the bike like racers? Or, do you tell yourself this is crazy speed I am going to crash and just slowly taking the turn? Do you control yourself by saying if I don't go this fast on the street why do I need to improve my skill here? Just wondering...
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:32 PM   #83
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i know of 2 i think 3 LSTD track inst. who are also MSF inst........
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:35 PM   #84
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Seth, trackday guide really quick:

For Buck Beasley's noob days: When he posts up that there is a spot, shoot him an email to register. Couple of days before, get painters tape and tape up your lights and blinkers, take off the license plate holder or tape it up. Show up to the trackday in the morning for orientation. You pay the morning you ride. If you don't know what to do there, get there early and ask anyone around you. They show you where the bathrooms are, the cashier, the track, the riders' meeting, etc.

For LSTD or Ridesmart trackdays: You can save money by cornerworking first, you'll cw for a trackday credit. Look on their website for a location and a date you like, shoot them an email and get the email a week prior to cornerworking for instructions. Show up around 6:30 at the latest and go to registration. The rest you will be guided through.
To do the trackday, pick a date again, email Tom from LSTD or Jason from Ridesmart that you would like to take the credit and ride that day. Wait for confirmation. Prep your bike, show up early and attend the riders meeting.

Trailering is preferred over riding there. Post up her that you are looking for place on a trailer and I am sure someone will offer room.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:38 PM   #85
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yup just remembered, it's a solid 3

anybody know stephan porter? he's a lil fast.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:48 PM   #86
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:54 PM   #87
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I have road with Ed at the track. He is a solid rider and I would take him being next to me in a corner over many others any day.

I have to say one more thing... A little reflection on the community you belong to may help you understand why many of the older riders have such strong opinions.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:55 PM   #88
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yup just remembered, it's a solid 3

anybody know stephan porter? he's a lil fast.
Still pulling solid 3s?

Yep, Stephen is an awesome guy. I stole most of my riding technique from him.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:59 PM   #89
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I have road with Ed at the track. He is a solid rider and I would take him being next to me in a corner over many others any day.

I have to say one more thing... A little reflection on the community you belong to may help you understand why many of the older riders have such strong opinions.
especially over someone who thinks his bike is limiting him.

not wanting to really knock but tha'ts a funny comment.
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:54 PM   #90
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man just get whatever YOU want to get. People on here argue and discuss things so much and you just get clouded guidance. Just be mindful of what you DO end up getting and learn it possibilities, strengths and limits before going and doing something stupid.

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Old 10-05-2007, 02:58 PM   #91
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man just get whatever YOU want to get. People on here argue and discuss things so much and you just get clouded guidance. Just be mindful of what you DO end up getting and learn it possibilities, strengths and limits before going and doing something stupid.

use your head!
Just don't use your head to brake your fall. I have tried it and it does not work. :/:
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Just don't use your head to brake your fall. I have tried it and it does not work. :/:
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:07 PM   #93
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man just get whatever YOU want to get. People on here argue and discuss things so much and you just get clouded guidance. Just be mindful of what you DO end up getting and learn it possibilities, strengths and limits before going and doing something stupid.

use your head!
I agree... you got to do what you want to do... if you come here looking for reassurance, you are almost always guaranteed not to get it... everyone talks about stay with the small bike and yet most have big bikes and they themselves never started on a small bike (except a few)....

You got to do what makes you comfortable but do heed the advice of some of the folks here and stay within your parameters and don't overdo it... your just as likely to kill yourself or injure yourself on a 250 as you are on a 600... do what makes you happy, man.....
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