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Old 10-02-2007, 07:01 AM   #21
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imho - westpark tollway is 1 place I would surely not pull someone over if I was a cop. and I also think cops should not be able to sit on the side of the freeway (they should be moving with traffic not parked right over a hill in the emergency lane)

either way, its sad to see the man get killed doing his job. harris county should make some rules on where cops can sit, and it should be required that a car that gets pulled over exit the freeway before stopping for the cop, for everyone's safety.

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sadly i saw this coming.... the motorcycle cops i see everyday hiding on the westpark tollway hide is some pretty dangerous spots. then when they see someone speeding they pull out in order to catch them and put themselves in that much more risk.

either way this is a tragedy. RIP
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:54 AM   #24
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rubberneckers. you didnt know him, did you jeremiah?
No but 1 of the guys that i work with did and he also said he made the scene and it was pretty bad.
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This happened at Westpark and Gessener. If I remember correctly, there is a overpass there in which you cannot see over it. It could have been possible that the stop was conducted on the blind side of the hill and the suburban was unable to avoid it once he came over the hill. Sometimes, it isn't always what it seems. But never the less, RIP.
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heard this on the radio on the way into work. sad how some people are careless. I catch myself doing stupid stuff while I am driving like leaning over and reaching for something, why can't ppl just wait till we're at a stop light or stop sign to do that. RIP
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It gets worse............supposedly the driver was on a cellphone at the time.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:25 AM   #28
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It gets worse............supposedly the driver was on a cellphone at the time.
That's a big suprise. :/:
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it...!!! My condolences to her Family.

Hope that person does NOT get probation or some stupid punishment like that. They need to change the Law to make illegal to talk on cell phones while driving. I see too much people on my daily commute talking on the phone and very distracted. I need to be aware of them because I know they will not see me on the bike.

By the way, talking on the phone while you are driving in a Military base is illegal.
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Constable Norling wrote me a ticket just a few days ago. He was respectable and polite during the stop. Pretty crazy!
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It gets worse............supposedly the driver was on a cellphone at the time.
One more reason to ban those stupid things from vehicles.
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One more reason to ban those stupid things from vehicles.
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This may sound bad but, I am guessing that by taking my ticket to court it would get dismissed with out the officer showing?
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This may sound bad but, I am guessing that by taking my ticket to court it would get dismissed with out the officer showing?
you're probably right. go to trial and it will get dismissed.
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This may sound bad but, I am guessing that by taking my ticket to court it would get dismissed with out the officer showing?
I would be afraid of bad omen if I did that.
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i didn't realize there were so many perfect drivers on the board. let me guess, you all wait until you're stopped to change the radio station or answer your cell phone and always wear your seat belts and never go over the speed limit and always use your blinkers and always stop at the stop sign for the appropriate amount of time and follow every traffic rule there is.
well, if you don't follow all the rules, and you're saying this person deserves to die, etc. for breaking one of them, just be thankful that you didn't mess up bad whenever you broke whatever traffic law because then it would be you who is the unfortunate "idiot".
i'm not saying this guy is totally innocent though. maybe he was completely negligent and just not paying attention at all, but i didn't gather that info from the article.
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i didn't realize there were so many perfect drivers on the board. let me guess, you all wait until you're stopped to change the radio station or answer your cell phone and always wear your seat belts and never go over the speed limit and always use your blinkers and always stop at the stop sign for the appropriate amount of time and follow every traffic rule there is.
well, if you don't follow all the rules, and you're saying this person deserves to die, etc. for breaking one of them, just be thankful that you didn't mess up bad whenever you broke whatever traffic law because then it would be you who is the unfortunate "idiot".
i'm not saying this guy is totally innocent though. maybe he was completely negligent and just not paying attention at all, but i didn't gather that info from the article.
Wow, someone else actually has a brain here. I have tried to tell people that all the time. No one listens, they think because the party involved was on a motorcycle then they should have this higher than mighty status in the legal system. If the guy was hit in a patrol car, he'd probably still be here alive and we would dismiss it as just another wreck. Newsflash people, this is still just another wreck but contained a fatality unfortunantly. It doesn't matter what two vehicles were involved and we should look at it in the same light. Just because someone made a mistake in which a biker got hurt, we want to hang them. I have been the victim of a such incident so I know that in my heart, I wouldn't want the other party in prison forever or even killed. I lost the use of my legs but I am not bitter towards the driver that hit me. Now if he was drunk, then it would be a totally different story. But this guy was driving down a narrow roadway with out a place to run off. It wasn't the best senerio for making a stop. But why would we stop the blame there. I guess we could also hang the guy that was speeding and got pulled over in the first place. After all, he did cause the officer to be in harms way.
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I would be afraid of bad omen if I did that.
I agree but normal procedure for trying to get one dismissed is to keep rescheduling the court date for the trial so the officer does not show. This is based upon Texas Code of Criminal Procedure where Due Process of the law guarantees myself certain rights. One of which is I shall be confronted by witnesses who are against me.

Art. 1.05. [3] [4] RIGHTS OF ACCUSED. In all criminal
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All of this really sucks though! I would never wish any harm on a motorcycle cop. I would not mind being one myself. Like I said before he was courteous and polite to me. I am just wondering how this affects my ticket is all.
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Wow, someone else actually has a brain here. I have tried to tell people that all the time. No one listens, they think because the party involved was on a motorcycle then they should have this higher than mighty status in the legal system. If the guy was hit in a patrol car, he'd probably still be here alive and we would dismiss it as just another wreck. Newsflash people, this is still just another wreck but contained a fatality unfortunantly. It doesn't matter what two vehicles were involved and we should look at it in the same light. Just because someone made a mistake in which a biker got hurt, we want to hang them. I have been the victim of a such incident so I know that in my heart, I wouldn't want the other party in prison forever or even killed. I lost the use of my legs but I am not bitter towards the driver that hit me. Now if he was drunk, then it would be a totally different story. But this guy was driving down a narrow roadway with out a place to run off. It wasn't the best senerio for making a stop. But why would we stop the blame there. I guess we could also hang the guy that was speeding and got pulled over in the first place. After all, he did cause the officer to be in harms way.
Not to state any reactions for their actions but, they did break the law and in the course of doing so killed a person who happen to be an officer of the law. That is not good no matter how you look at it. I am sure it will be considered vehicular manslaughter. Now if the person killed was in the middle of the highway or something that would change the story completely.
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