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Old 09-28-2007, 08:34 AM   #21
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What’s up Jason??? Slow down and you won’t have that problem... Or were you trying to catch up to me?? I have had that one time before, I was passing a truck down in Alvin and hit a pot hole, the bars started bouncing back and forth and all I was looking for some grassy area to crash in. Needless to say I got the bike under control and pulled over to clean the out of my pants. I would suggest a after market steering stabilizer.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:34 AM   #22
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no you're completely right I'm not saying that going mph into a turn is smart nor do I do it...another thing...I never said or acted like I know anything about riding i'm a self confessed noob "1000 mi in 10 mos STFU."...grow up guy...that was uncalled for

all I know is that I wear my gear and take it easy, the guy was asking why his bike responded like that...maybe it was his technique??? I sure as don't know but again...maybe someone will give you a real answer huh Jason?
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that's the odd thing. i just had my suspension setup on wed at Motorcycles Unlimited. i thought that might of been why this happened. i've takin that turn multiple times at the same speed and never had this happen.
The road isn't perfect... cracks, potholes, debris... any of it can cause a slapper. Remember, don't put the death grip on your bars. That can also add to the problem.
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What’s up Jason??? Slow down and you won’t have that problem... Or were you trying to catch up to me?? I have had that one time before, I was passing a truck down in Alvin and hit a pot hole, the bars started bouncing back and forth and all I was looking for some grassy area to crash in. Needless to say I got the bike under control and pulled over to clean the out of my pants. I would suggest a after market steering stabilizer.
Are you guys still riding on Sunday? I got a tire yesterday so I should have the busa back together. - Tom
what up tom! ya, let's make it happen on sunday. i'm thinkin about hittin up the hpd cruise
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The road isn't perfect... cracks, potholes, debris... any of it can cause a slapper. Remember, don't put the death grip on your bars. That can also add to the problem.
when i turn i lean with my legs and hips. i put as little grip on the bars as possible.
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also, notice in that video, he has a load of wieght over the front end when he comes down, had he been back a bit when he brought it down, it might not have happend.
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when i turn i lean with my legs and hips. i put as little grip on the bars as possible.
I'm trying to understand this... with your legs and hips?

For street riding there really is no reason to lean anything but the bike... if you need to get out of your seat then you're going way to fast. , I can drag pegs all day long on the F4i and not move out of me seat at all.
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ya, well if you dont have alot of experiance than cool it. not going to tell you what to do, but little experiance + lots of confidence and well..

you might get your very own RIP thread on here, with angels and everything.no one likes to see a fellow rider die, even if they are squid.
don't have a lot and i'm always still learning but experience isn't the problem. i'm just like everyone else-ridin dirtbikes at 13, bought a cruiser at 22, sportbike at 25. no squid here my friend
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I'm trying to understand this... with your legs and hips?

For street riding there really is no reason to lean anything but the bike... if you need to get out of your seat then you're going way to fast. , I can drag pegs all day long on the F4i and not move out of me seat at all.
out of the saddle, put weight over right knee, left hip holds the bike.
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don't have a lot and i'm always still learning but experience isn't the problem. i'm just like everyone else-ridin dirtbikes at 13, bought a cruiser at 22, sportbike at 25. no squid here my friend
I'm not trying to be an ... but do you think 115 on a public highway isn't being a squid?

I do... it cause of actions like that, that cause me to get tailed by cops.
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i came onto it at 90mph. i pulled my a$$ out of the saddle and accelerated up to 115 comin out of the turn. .
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I'm not trying to be an ... but do you think 115 on a public highway isn't being a squid?

I do... it cause of actions like that, that cause me to get tailed by cops.
good point. how ever, if any rider on this site or on a bike would say they never hit 3 digits on any public hwy, frwy, or st. i'm callin b.s.
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good point. how ever, if any rider on this site or on a bike would say they never hit 3 digits on any public hwy, frwy, or st. i'm callin b.s.
I agree... but most of those who do those speeds, don't misrepresent themselves and say that they are good safe riders.

I used to ride like that, first time I dragged a knee was on public roads! But after seeing so many get hurt and killed over the past 7+ years I've been riding, I've learned not to do that.


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I agree... but most of those who do those speeds, don't misrepresent themselves and say that they are good safe riders.

I used to ride like that, first time I dragged a knee was on public roads! But after seeing so many get hurt and killed over the past 7+ years I've been riding, I've learned not to do that.


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thank u for ur info steve, i appreciate it. and i'm on my way to the track as soon as possible. i just wanna buy my own gear before i do so. everyone who's been explains to me that there's no comparrison to ridin on the street. i wanna experience what you all are talkin about. i'll be on it soon. thanks again.
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happen to me a couple times on the freeway doing what you did, but from the sound of it, you got a 1000, probably picked the front up when you hit it hard and came down offset a bit, then yea, but slide back, and get on the gas and that should help, also invest in GPR or scott damper that will help cut down on that slappers..

also, use your body to move the back more then the handle bars, weigh shift will move the bike alot smoother then just forcing the handle bars up
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happen to me a couple times on the freeway doing what you did, but from the sound of it, you got a 1000, probably picked the front up when you hit it hard and came down offset a bit, then yea, but slide back, and get on the gas and that should help, also invest in GPR or scott damper that will help cut down on that slappers..

also, use your body to move the back more then the handle bars, weigh shift will move the bike alot smoother then just forcing the handle bars up
that's the info i was lookin for i'll check out some aftermarket dampers today
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thank u for ur info steve, i appreciate it. and i'm on my way to the track as soon as possible. i just wanna buy my own gear before i do so. everyone who's been explains to me that there's no comparrison to ridin on the street. i wanna experience what you all are talkin about. i'll be on it soon. thanks again.
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as previously stated.....steering damper

either you hit a bump while on the throttle......or you throttled too much outta the turn......actually.....correction.....could be MANY MANY things that caused it.

i've been lucky, only had 1 highside on the crf.....1 near highside, which for the love of i saved, that probably would've broke some bones on my 600rr at TWS (Texas World Speedway).

i'm not gonna lie, i ride hard on the streets....which is why i made the choice of not having a street bike anymore. i have no self-control when i'm on two wheels. if you're riding like that on the streets, i would highly suggest some self-control. doing high speeds while changing freeways is not a good choice. if you should hit an oil puddle, some gravel, huge bump, etc.....flying off a bridge at high speeds probably isn't a lot of fun.

be careful out there. and btw, the suspension setup at Motorcycles Unlimited would not have caused it.....it's either rider error, or street issue.
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Most of the latter advice I have seen on this thread is dead on about slappers and how to prevent them.... Simply saying "slow down" or "don't go on public roads" is total and not worth wasting the time to type....Everyone buys these bikes to go fast, on the track or on the street it makes no difference....if its gonna slap, its gonna slap...YES on the street there is more of a chance of it due to more irregular road surfaces etc but.....

Safety nazis gotta jump all over threads like this an not even offer any REAL advice... Here is what you check:

1) Front/rear tire pressures and condition
2) Suspension settings, make sure they are EXACTLY the same on both forks
3) Steering head bearing adjustment
4) Rear wheel alignment
5) Both wheel bearings and spacers

All of these components can affect the bikes stability and resistance to slappers....YES I have had one bad REAR wheel bearing that would give me a wobble in the bars at 60 mph.....You have to look past the obvious..

Steering dampers will help but not completely quench slappers, the main focus is to make sure other aspects of the bike that can cause slappers are in great working condition. Front end and frame geometery is what causes certain bikes to be slapper prone....some are REALLY bad like the old 900RR, TL1000S, Early R1s/R6s and some ZX9Rs and 929 hondas....Steep rake and trail angles aid in this...

Seeing as how this happend on your 06 1k, I doubt seriously that there is anything wrong with your bike other then possibly low tire pressure or worn front tire... Some times, they just happen, you hit the right bump, on the right road, at the right speed with your weight in a certain position, you may get one....Thats just the nature of the beast...Gixxers are not necessarily prone to slappin so...I think it was a freak case for you... Just be aware they can happen anytime and the main thing to remember is don't panic, don't tighten up on the bars, and DON'T HIT THE BRAKES....just get your weight off the front, either stay on the gas or try slightly increasing it although sometimes that will inflame the slapper.

I have had a BAD slapper on a stock Hayabusa of all things(the most stable bike on the market), I was running through the gears and as I shifted to 3rd, all broke loose, it was slapping back and forth, lock to lock(it actually broke one of the tabs off the lower tree). It was completely out of control and my feet were not even on the pegs, I instantly started looking for somewhere to land to keep from getting hit by other cars....well, I stayed on it and kept it up...I took it back to the owner I was testing it for and told him what happened, he says "yeah, I forgot to tell you its been doing that lately!" Turns out he just mounted a new Metzler rear tire and still running the stock Bridgestone front... We put my wheel on it with a bridgestone and had no more problems....mix matched tires causing slappers....who would have thought...
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