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Old 09-27-2007, 01:08 PM   #1
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double clutching

Do you? can you on a motorbike?
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:20 PM   #2
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Why would you?

Well whats your deffinition of double clutching?
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:20 PM   #3
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, most of the time I never use a clutch
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:21 PM   #4
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What is double clutching?
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:21 PM   #5
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for what rev matching?

or do you have hydrolic clutch on that "busa"
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:22 PM   #6
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i don't understand that anyway, to me it seems that is just that much more time off the throttle
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:23 PM   #7
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i think he means like in a stick shift car......you slip the clutch to build up some torque/hp to help let it rip......

but i don't see the purpose of doing it on a bike. so i would say no for motorcycles. they build their power up really quick, so no real purpose for doing with a bike.
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i think someone just watched fast and furious

or drives a diesel
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:25 PM   #9
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i think he means like in a stick shift car......you slip the clutch to build up some torque/hp to help let it rip......

but i don't see the purpose of doing it on a bike. so i would say no for motorcycles. they build their power up really quick, so no real purpose for doing with a bike.
Yea, not on a street bike. I have done that on a dirtbike alot coming out of a corner.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:26 PM   #10
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Yea, not on a street bike. I have done that on a dirtbike alot coming out of a corner.
isn't that more feathering the clutch? it's easier to do that than do it with the throttle
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i think he means like in a stick shift car......you slip the clutch to build up some torque/hp to help let it rip......

but i don't see the purpose of doing it on a bike. so i would say no for motorcycles. they build their power up really quick, so no real purpose for doing with a bike.
exactly what I was thinking
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i think he means like in a stick shift car......you slip the clutch to build up some torque/hp to help let it rip......

but i don't see the purpose of doing it on a bike. so i would say no for motorcycles. they build their power up really quick, so no real purpose for doing with a bike.
oh, I see.

yeah when I am close behind, I slipped the clutch to jump ahead.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:34 PM   #13
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noobs double clutching is (in cars) putting the car in N, then letting out, then putting the clutch in and rev matching to the next gear and letting out.... DOUBLE Clutching...

on a bike, no way you can... cause the gears are lined up, cant go back to N, you can rev match with the clutch in, which is what you should be doing to avoid to jerky shift lol

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Double-clutching is usually reserved for those driving trucks or high performance racing cars, but anyone with a manual transmission can perform this simple feat.

For most manual transmission drivers, the act of shifting gears is a straightforward one. First the clutch is depressed, then the shifter is thrown into the next gear, and finally the clutch is released putting the car back into gear. All of this is usually done without thinking, at least after some practice.

But double clutching adds a third step into the mix. The shifter, rather than going straight to the next gear, makes a stop in neutral and then the clutch is released. This is to allow the engine to slow down (or with a tap on the gas, speed up when downshifting) so the transition into the next gear is much more smooth. The driver then depresses the clutch again and completes the shift into the target gear, and finally the clutch is released again, putting the car back into gear. It only takes a split second for the engine speed to match the speed of the gears, so the entire action is done very quickly as a fluid sequence of events.

Most modern cars, however, are equipped with devices called synchronizers that help to synchronize the speed of the gearbox with that of the engine. This effectively eliminates the need for double clutching. Some large trucks on the other hand have so many gears that synchronizers are inefficient, while race cars can squeeze out more power without them, making double clutching a fact of life.

There are times, however, that a normal car driver may want to make use of double clutching. Many manual transmission drivers realize the advantages of downshifting in slippery conditions. Rather than brake and skid, a car with a manual transmission can make use of the engine to slow down - thereby eliminating the possibility of a skid. But even with synchronizers, a driver trying to shift from fifth gear into second could have some trouble. In this case, double clutching by pausing in neutral and giving the engine a little gas to match speeds of the engine and gearbox, can allow such a drastic shift.

Some driving purists maintain that it's still the proper way to shift, and makes for a much smoother ride. It eliminates some of the jumpiness sometimes felt in a manual transmission car, and it decreases the stress on the gearbox. In any case, double clutching a skill worth having in emergency downshift situations, and not very difficult to learn.
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noobs double clutching is (in cars) putting the car in N, then letting out, then putting the clutch in and rev matching to the next gear and letting out.... DOUBLE Clutching...

on a bike, no way you can... cause the gears are lined up, cant go back to N, you can rev match with the clutch in, which is what you should be doing to avoid to jerky shift lol
That sounds like power shifting to me. Hold the gas, pulled the clutch, shift a gear and dumped the clutch.
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why do the third step, the engine will slow down or can be sped up with the clutch on the floor, no need to release it.
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That sounds like power shifting to me. Hold the gas, pulled the clutch, shift a gear and dumped the clutch.
see your taking the adding a LITTLE gas to the extreme... you are simply letting the engine drop down to IDLE, then bringing it up to about 2-3k when you downshift.. if you power shift down shifting you will break traction QUICK! lol
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why do the third step, the engine will slow down or can be sped up with the clutch on the floor, no need to release it.
double clutching isnt for going fast, its for slowing down...
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:42 PM   #18
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still did not answer, why do it, the motor will slow down if the clutch is pressed
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:43 PM   #19
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According to the article, then yes. I double clutch all of the time.
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I thought the thread is about racing or fast power shifting but it's not.
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