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Old 09-25-2007, 01:05 PM   #41
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I think its a great idea. Its really the only way to sort out "new" riders who have enough street experience but haven't had their "M" long enough to run in the groups and those who are truely green. If they are using the track as a learning grounds they need to be taking the instructions in the class and having someone looking over their shoulder to make sure they don't hurt themselves and especially others.

Overall a good way to encourage responsibility in the newer riders and get them to learn their limits before they go past them. I know how easy it is to think you are better than you are, I learned the hard way and I hope this prevents someone else from learning the way I did.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:05 PM   #42
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Guidelines and rules come from past experience and preventative actions. Rules, by and large, are not designed to be perfect and can not be "all encompassing".

I think both requirements have good points that are more important than negative (I actually can't think of any reason not to have both...).

If you are riding a motorcycle, and you have a Class M, you've demonstrated via written test and practical application to the State that you at least know how to operate the vehicle safely on the streets (a verifiable credential).

The MSF is a very good source of education to teach how to handle a motorcycle well, and provides documentation as well. I know I learned a lot when I took it (back in '85, I'm sure it's just as good now as then), and it taught me all kinds of techniques that I actually use on the track (however involuntary it has become). There are advanced classes for MSF too that expound on those skills.

Besides, it's for the new people anyway, those people that aren't within the group don't need to worry about this, and likely possess the credentials anyway.

As I mentioned, stay tuned for some exciting track time next year!
How is the "Learn to wheel past the finish line school" coming along?
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:06 PM   #43
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How is the "Learn to wheel past the finish line school" coming along?
I'd like to be able to woolie but I'd be the asshat who loops it on the final lap.
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I'd like to be able to woolie but I'd be the asshat who loops it on the final lap.
Sliding past the finish counts right?
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:45 PM   #45
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Not a problem, the term squid is used quite often, but just because you have on proper gear, etc. doesn't make you an exemption of the term. I have seen/done plenty of squidly moves (i.e. weaving in/out of cars on the highway, highway wheelies, lack of gear, etc.) in my day. Riding fearlessly and without caution puts ya in the squid bracket if you ask me.
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