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Old 09-24-2007, 12:31 AM   #1
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Aprilia Supermoto? Or something else...

So I'm in the market for a new bike now...

Mini supermoto is fun, so I was wondering how cool a full size one would be for the street/track... The Aprilia seems the nicest.

Supposedly, the Suzi is underpowered for the street, but its cheap(er).

Thoughts? Other suggestions?
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:32 AM   #2
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you sell the bike yet? how much you ask for the 1000rr
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:40 AM   #3
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dr650 FTW I love mine. It is not underpowered for the street just underpowered for the track and . You never have to work on it. Aircooled bulletproof
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you sell the bike yet? how much you ask for the 1000rr
his insurance is gonna be buyin his bike.

and todd...i was thinkin the same thing. the aprilia sxv's are bad 's. if i was to get a motard right now, that'll be the one.
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the insurance is buyin his cbr 1000rr? why?
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:49 AM   #6
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you sell the bike yet? how much you ask for the 1000rr
Professional opinion is that the RR is totalled... but thats why I pay for FULL coverage, including medical.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:50 AM   #7
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aww man you wrecked the blue/yellow 1000rr? dammmm bro sorry to hear that......been away from mh for a while..dam i really interested in buyin too
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i like the aprilla supermoto also. if i had the money thats what i would be riding. the duc hypermotard seems awesome but a little overkill
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hey todd seriously buy that bike back.
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If your talking about the 450 I'd jump on it and never let it see the streets(well maybe some fun dowtown)
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build one! will be far cheaper than buying one...
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i like the aprilla supermoto also. if i had the money thats what i would be riding. the duc hypermotard seems awesome but a little overkill
no such thing as overkill! lol

but to answer the question at hand...i'd never have a supermoto as my only bike. they're just not practical enough. little tiny gas tanks only get you 100 miles at best, no wind protection, too tall of a seat height, and usually spinning too high rpms at freeway speeds (especially higher than freeway speeds). as a second bike it would be awesome tho. If i lived in another part of the country, like SoCal, or something similar, where everything is super crowded and lane spliting is legal, a supermoto would be the only way to go. But in the wide open spaces of Texas, they just aren't as much fun, all that super agile handling and flickability goes to a waste because there's nothing around tight enough to need it.
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I've heard the Apillia supermotos have some crazy maintenance issues.

I'd get a XR650L (street legal) and convert it.
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For TX highways you want something in the 650 rang. I am building a xr650r, I am almost done w/ it and I thing it will be the ticket for me.

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Let me know if you have any questions about the Aprilia supermoto.

I love mine! BUT, be warned, they are high maintenance bikes. There is a reason my 550 is so fast straight off the showroom floor, it's a race engine. De-restricted the factory is offering a 90 day warranty. AF1 in New Braunfels promised that I would be well taken care of and I have complete faith in them. DO NOT buy from anyplace else, AF1 is worth the drive. You'll get the best service and price from them for anything Aprilia related. I'm getting a new motor, a 2007.5, in a week or two. I'm waiting to find out what makes it different than the 2007 motor. The fact that Aprilia USA is getting about 200 of the new motors in over the next couple weeks says something. I don't know if they intend to slowly replace all the motors or not. AF1 told me, after a recent dealers meeting, that Aprilia is aware of the issue and wants to make things right. The problems are not being ignored.

The SXV 450 is rumored to be less tempermental than the 550 and you can race it down here. Larry has the 450, I have the 550. I might get mine back in time for the next track day. If I don't I'll be there on my gsxr track bike.

I have a FAST BIKES magazine that compares 9 different super motos. I'll bring it to the track with me if you want. You may still be able to find it at the book store. It has a big USED 600s on the front of it and a CBR600 on the cover.

If you want something close to the SXV but less tempermental, check out the Husqvarna SM510. Looks good and performs great with two year warranty and regular maintenance. But, you are getting 13 less HP at the wheel than the Aprilia.

If I could do it over again, I'd still get the Aprilia again.
They are not street bikes, in spite of the lights and mirrors! They are not for commuting on. I don't ride on the street much so this wasn't an issue for me. If I was looking for a daily driver I would not buy the Aprilia. I guess you could commute on it but it wouldn't be much fun.

If you want a supermoto, check out supermotojunkie.com. They have a for sale section. I got a good deal on new so I took it, there are lots of used bikes out there, used SXVs also.
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Hey Todd I've got an XR650R SM'd if you'd like to just test ride it? I'm not far from you. I've hardly riden it sense I got me 919.

I think you should buy your CBR back to have something for cruising the rode and then get or build a SM. Of course I don't know what the pay out and buy back of the insurance comp is. I'll bet the crash you had wouldn't have done nearly the damage to a SM that it did to your bike.
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The damage to the CBR is actually pretty extensive... I don't think it will be cost effective to buy 'er back.

So what kind of maintenance is involved with the Aprilia? I know the 550 motors are having sealing issues, but otherwise what do you have to do to keep 'em running???

I hear the '08 Huskies (with fuel injection) will be sweet!
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well, mine puked oil at about 250 miles so I didn't do to much.

I change my oil (1.25 liters) with every track day, transmission fluid every other track day.

Drain fluid out of the airbox (2 minute task) after every session.

The engine is very sensitive to oil level. The recomended procedure is to completely drain and then put in a measured amount and ignore the sight glass. Since it is dry sump, the sight tube is worthless anyway until the engine is warmed up. An oil change requires draining from three spots and checking the oil valve for marks (a 5 minute task). retentive types will rest the bike on it's side (onto a couple tires) and fill the oil filter recepticle with oil before closing it. Draining the oil tank is a rediculously messy procedure.

I hear good things about the new motors so hopefully the seal problem will be fixed. What happens is the coolant gets into the oil and the pressure in the engine rapidly rises causeing something to give. In my case it was the oil pressure sensor that blew out the side (ironic?).

I hear valve checks are frequent and it's best to drop the motor to do them. But it is supposed to be a quick process.

Some people are having no problems at all, commuting, track days, you name it. They are the exception.

NOBODY, rides one and thinks 'yeah, whatever, not so special..."

The bike rocks plain and simple, I won't have anything else. I've run with three other motards, a smr450, a crf 450r (mad max's rebuilt with hi-comp piston and more), and Larry on his SXV450. Larry and I switched, sxv4.5 vs 5.5, NO COMPARISON. I just kept waiting for the power. The SMR guy told me he had about 11 grand into his bike with a good amount of that for power, I walked right by him on the straights (we were about the same weight). I was faster on the straights than the built crf also but that engine was brand new and may be faster now that it's been ridden a bit, but, I weigh about 40 lbs more than Mad Max and his bike would have to be alot faster than it was the first day.

The SXV5.5 is a fast motard.
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well, mine puked oil at about 250 miles so I didn't do to much.

I change my oil (1.25 liters) with every track day, transmission fluid every other track day.

Drain fluid out of the airbox (2 minute task) after every session.

The engine is very sensitive to oil level. The recomended procedure is to completely drain and then put in a measured amount and ignore the sight glass. Since it is dry sump, the sight tube is worthless anyway until the engine is warmed up. An oil change requires draining from three spots and checking the oil valve for marks (a 5 minute task). retentive types will rest the bike on it's side (onto a couple tires) and fill the oil filter recepticle with oil before closing it. Draining the oil tank is a rediculously messy procedure.

I hear good things about the new motors so hopefully the seal problem will be fixed. What happens is the coolant gets into the oil and the pressure in the engine rapidly rises causeing something to give. In my case it was the oil pressure sensor that blew out the side (ironic?).

I hear valve checks are frequent and it's best to drop the motor to do them. But it is supposed to be a quick process.

Some people are having no problems at all, commuting, track days, you name it. They are the exception.

NOBODY, rides one and thinks 'yeah, whatever, not so special..."

The bike rocks plain and simple, I won't have anything else. I've run with three other motards, a smr450, a crf 450r (mad max's rebuilt with hi-comp piston and more), and Larry on his SXV450. Larry and I switched, sxv4.5 vs 5.5, NO COMPARISON. I just kept waiting for the power. The SMR guy told me he had about 11 grand into his bike with a good amount of that for power, I walked right by him on the straights (we were about the same weight). I was faster on the straights than the built crf also but that engine was brand new and may be faster now that it's been ridden a bit, but, I weigh about 40 lbs more than Mad Max and his bike would have to be alot faster than it was the first day.

The SXV5.5 is a fast motard.

Any idea what the gear comparison would be between you and all the other bikes you ran with?
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