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Old 09-23-2007, 05:31 PM   #21
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lowering a bike is a waste. just defeted the purpose of it.
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lowering a bike is a waste. just defeted the purpose of it.
maybe shes not looking at riding the bike to its full potential, dragging knee at the track, etc. ever possibly think that shes doing what she can to the bike she has now just to be able to ride, and enjoy the essence of riding?
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maybe shes not looking at riding the bike to its full potential, dragging knee at the track, etc. ever possibly think that shes doing what she can to the bike she has now just to be able to ride, and enjoy the essence of riding?
thats not the point either, the point is it was built and balanced. now that the suspension has been tweaked(lowered) it just goes to . well from what i know.
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thats not the point either, the point is it was built and balanced. now that the suspension has been tweaked(lowered) it just goes to . well from what i know.
if she can't touch the ground then what? Not everyone wants to drag knee at 150mph.
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if she can't touch the ground then what? Not everyone wants to drag knee at 150mph.
well if she can touch ground ,then lean it at a stop. and who goes 150? its not about that im just saying since lowering the bike is a waste , so if you guys wanna be all on her in her defense then thats cool im stating that lowering the bike is pointless,ive seen little asian dudes on bike who lower it and they tell me it handels like and all i say is i know it defeats the purpose.
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This is a stupid question but I'm learing as a newbie. Got my 07CBR lowered; Not too happy with it. Can I get it back to stock height by having them simply remove the lowering link? How is the cost, reasonable? Any shops you can recommend?
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This is a stupid question but I'm learing as a newbie. Got my 07CBR lowered; Not too happy with it. Can I get it back to stock height by having them simply remove the lowering link? How is the cost, reasonable? Any shops you can recommend?
Bring it to me and I,ll do it for free, may need the old link tho, did they give it to U or do U have the adjustable type?
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well if she can touch ground ,then lean it at a stop. and who goes 150? its not about that im just saying since lowering the bike is a waste , so if you guys wanna be all on her in her defense then thats cool im stating that lowering the bike is pointless,ive seen little asian dudes on bike who lower it and they tell me it handels like and all i say is i know it defeats the purpose.
Dude you just don't know what you're talking about, you're just repeating you've heard someone else say. Lowering a bike is not pointless if the reason you lower the bike is so you can touch the ground. That is the point. You can't expect a short female to hold a bike up with it leaning over at every stop, that would be pointless. Lowering the bike is not going to make a noticeable difference unless you're hitting curves hard at 100mph and over. That's what the others tried to say to you but you didn't get that either. Just riding the bike around town with it lowered will only be noticable when she stops because then she will be able to touch the ground.

Now before you say something else stupid I have no reason to be "all on her defense" because I have no clue who she is and I don't have my bike lowered. My point simply is shutup until you have something to say in this post that would be constructive to her question. Remember she asked a question? Then you ripped her!
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On my own defense, I lowered both my bikes to postpone wheelies using dogbones and slip trees, so the suspension is still fully adjustable with a lower center of gravity. As for the 150mph corners, don't do it often enough on houston country roads, especially enough to drag a knee
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IF the bike is lowered correctly, front and rear, then the only thing you have affected is ground clearance. There is a slight change in the leverage thru the rear shock linkage, but not enough to show up in handling.

And if you are dragging things in the corner, learn to lean off and stand the bike back up.

All the horror stories about lowering come from people that only lowered the back, and it handled like after that due to the front end being too high.
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Why are you not happy with it, and why did you lower it to begin with?

If they only lowered the back, then it handles like poo now, right?
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Dude you just don't know what you're talking about, you're just repeating you've heard someone else say. Lowering a bike is not pointless if the reason you lower the bike is so you can touch the ground. That is the point. You can't expect a short female to hold a bike up with it leaning over at every stop, that would be pointless. Lowering the bike is not going to make a noticeable difference unless you're hitting curves hard at 100mph and over. That's what the others tried to say to you but you didn't get that either. Just riding the bike around town with it lowered will only be noticable when she stops because then she will be able to touch the ground. when you lower the bike, you increase the wheelbase, how can you not effect handling?

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i can't touch the ground on any bike, i have a 29" inseam. why would a bike lean over? how about shift your body off the bike when coming to a stop. think ahead of time about where your gonna plant your feet when stopping. how about buying a proper beginner bike? the more you lower the worse the handling becomes.

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This another helpful post to help answer her question.

Would someone please tell me from your wealth of knowledge in physics, what would make a bike harder to handle when the center of gravity is lowered? Other than ground clearance. So I would have to carry this logic out to mean that if I made a bike ten feet high it woud handle much better right?

Think it through then answer.
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think ahead of time about where your gonna plant your feet when stopping. how about buying a proper beginner bike? the more you lower the worse the handling becomes.
unfortunately, you cannot always think ahead where your feet will plant. Also, if you have to shift off the seat to reach the ground, and can only get one toe down, odds are good you will overcenter and drop the bike more than once, especially a female who doesn't have the physical strength to hold the bike up if it gets away from her.

Also nothing to do with beginner or not; newer sport bikes are not designed for short legs.

Lowering, if done properly, does not affect the handling in any way. I can still sail my wifes bike around the corners, and it is lowered almost 3 inches. And I outweigh her by more than a little bit. Her bike does have adjustable pegs tho, so it has that advantage of gaining some ground clearance back.
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This another helpful post to help answer her question.

Would someone please tell me from your wealth of knowledge in physics, what would make a bike harder to handle when the center of gravity is lowered? Other than ground clearance. So I would have to carry this logic out to mean that if I made a bike ten feet high it woud handle much better right?

Think it through then answer.
it has mainly to do with the lean angles. the lower to the ground your bike is, the lean potential is small. (can't really think of a good example...but i will try this...)just imagine you have an umbrella sitting on top of a cinder block (where you usually hold is perpendicular to the cinder block). then you lean it over on its side, the umbrella would be able to lean over a lot more compared when you do not have the cinder block there. the cinder block can be seen as the gap underneath your bike. the higher that gap is from under ground, the more of a lean angle there is. *hopefully this makes sense*

and shorter wheel base, means it would quicker into a turn. just think of a car vs a 18 wheeler. the car has a shorter wheel base, therefore they can make narrower turns, where as 18 wheelers make wide turns b/c of the longer wheel base.
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Reducing the wheel base 1/4" will not noticeably affect the turn in. That is about the max you "might" see by sliding the forks up 1 to 2 inches, especially with a sport bike and their steep steering necks.

Ground clearance is the only issue, and does not come into play if you are not already dragging pegs or other hard parts.

And if you do drag, then you need to learn why racers hang off the bike.

Any sportbike lowered the normal 1 to 2 inches will still have more than enough clearance to handle any turn at above legal speeds.
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^^ Add a heavier bike or disportioned rider/bike weight and it can make the ride harder to consider lean angles and so on in the corners.
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