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Old 09-24-2007, 12:32 PM   #21
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I got into riding because of my BF, I didnt' like riding on the back with him. He wouldn't let me ride his bike at all until I took the MSF. I had never been on a bike before & so took the MSF and I left there with everything I needed to know and with confidence. I got my license a couple weeks after that then hit the parking lots, graduated to the neighboorhood, then the interstates. It takes time... Good luck
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:37 PM   #22
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:42 PM   #23
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if self teaching your self is bad.. who taught the first person to ride a motorcycle?

but the msf course i took was cool b/c the instructor was a amatuer racer also and had me leanin off that night hawk 250 and dragging random parts in no time ha
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:20 PM   #24
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MSF, please. Crawl, then walk, then run. She does not need to be making ANY slow turns until she's got the whole "friction zone" down. She needs MSF.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:16 PM   #25
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We have several sponsors offering good classes.

Not to be picky or anything........but we are actually the only sponsor listed that runs the MSF course.

And I agree, just get her in the class......sounds like she already knows more than a good portion of our students anyway.

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Old 09-25-2007, 02:26 AM   #26
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msf it is then. thanks for the help everyone.
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:07 AM   #27
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:15 PM   #28
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if self teaching your self is bad.. who taught the first person to ride a motorcycle?



I taught myself on a 600lb 850 yamaha. It was brand new and raining the day I picked it up. I was wearing a borrowed helmet with a taped on face shield.
I took it easy, rode around in neighborhoods and finally got better. On the other hand I wrecked it three times and put my G/F in the emergency room, so maybe MSF isn't such a bad idea.
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i disagree with msf first...........its like whether the chicken or egg came first. Lets suppose there is a noob with zero bike experience, if he goes to the msf he is basically screwed when its time for the bike session because he never even sat on a bike, turn it on, and messed with it, etc. So if saying family or friend teaching is a bad thing..........that is erroneous.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:16 PM   #30
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i disagree with msf first...........its like whether the chicken or egg came first. Lets suppose there is a noob with zero bike experience, if he goes to the msf he is basically screwed when its time for the bike session because he never even sat on a bike, turn it on, and messed with it, etc. So if saying family or friend teaching is a bad thing..........that is erroneous.
+1, I think a couple very basic sessions in a parking lot will help out prior to taking the class.
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put em on a 500cc 2stroke ha they will learn how to use the clutch and throttle control real fast haha
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how long do you think the dad/BF is going to spend on teaching the basics of a motorcycle? i mean where is this? where is that?

MSF - 1/2hr

how long to teach clutch control ? MSF 1/2 hr.
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i disagree with msf first...........its like whether the chicken or egg came first. Lets suppose there is a noob with zero bike experience, if he goes to the msf he is basically screwed when its time for the bike session because he never even sat on a bike, turn it on, and messed with it, etc. So if saying family or friend teaching is a bad thing..........that is erroneous.
They teach all of that in the classroom and when the students get on the bikes. MSF basic course teaches the students as if they have no experience with motorcycles.
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They teach all of that in the classroom and when the students get on the bikes. MSF basic course teaches the students as if they have no experience with motorcycles.
This is true. But you have x-amount of people to teach in x-amount of time.

So if she has to start from complete scratch, then she looses time that can be spent on the bike, riding and improving and learning more.

I think the MSF should be required for everyone, BUT I also feel that you get more out of it if you already know the basics of how to ride the bike. Especially if you have a smaller class with people of similar skills.

I don't see any problem with taking someone out to a parking lot or deserted street, and getting them used to operating the bike up and down the road. You just need to teach them the right basics from the start, about eye and head position, friction points on the brake and clutch, and basic countersteering. Then they can enjoy the MSF and pick up the right info. Even more so if they haven't driven a manual shift car before.

When the wife did the MSF, she said "the light bulb" went on over everything we had talked about while I taught her prior.
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This is true. But you have x-amount of people to teach in x-amount of time.

So if she has to start from complete scratch, then she looses time that can be spent on the bike, riding and improving and learning more.

I think the MSF should be required for everyone, BUT I also feel that you get more out of it if you already know the basics of how to ride the bike. Especially if you have a smaller class with people of similar skills.

I don't see any problem with taking someone out to a parking lot or deserted street, and getting them used to operating the bike up and down the road. You just need to teach them the right basics from the start, about eye and head position, friction points on the brake and clutch, and basic countersteering. Then they can enjoy the MSF and pick up the right info. Even more so if they haven't driven a manual shift car before.

When the wife did the MSF, she said "the light bulb" went on over everything we had talked about while I taught her prior.
Not saying there is anything wrong with getting acquainted with the bike first, but a person is not "screwed" if they don't have experience before taking the MSF course.
I agree that a person could get more out of MSF if he/she does have some good prior experience/knowledge of how to operate a motorcycle but it is not needed.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:36 PM   #37
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I'm glad I took the MSF even though I made a 100% on both written and riding *knock on wood... Plus I was dragging the foot pegs on that cheezy in the parking lot within a few hours.

I took it because the last time I rode a dirtbike was 11 years ago and I really didn't ride much to begin with. I think I learned some good stuff on the mechanics of how a bike handles.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:21 PM   #38
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I wouldn't have spent the time on researching a bike or spent the money on it if i was pushing it on her. She finds other ways to make me happy. She has been ridding on the back of my bike for 2 yrs. and she wants to ride long distances which we cannot do together on one bike. On another note, i didn't know msf covered the bare basics of clutch operation, etc. Now that i know that, i like the idea of taking her to msf first. So thanks for the help everyone.

if you havnt taken it, i would suggest that BOTH of you take the class...
me and a friend took ours at the same time and had a blast
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