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Old 09-13-2007, 03:23 PM   #61
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under 2 min on a good street tire shouldn't be a problem and you should barely be slippin at all esp on a 600.

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although i know of some people who can do under 2 minutes on 2cts.....tires slipping can happen on any bike when leaned over...racing compound just sticks that little bit more.

also too much tire pressure can cause tires to slip, whether it be street or racing compound tires.
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although i know of some people who can do under 2 minutes on 2cts.....tires slipping can happen on any bike when leaned over...racing compound just sticks that little bit more.

also too much tire pressure can cause tires to slip, whether it be street or racing compound tires.
I agree, but also the fact that race tires stick better can also hide poor riding technique... $.02
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^true. Just saying that you shouldn't be sliding completely side ways unlike the whoever burned passed me in the morning on monday just smokin on a red and white kawi.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:28 PM   #64
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I agree, but also the fact that race tires stick better can also hide poor riding technique... $.02
very true.
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If you are running 2 or below on street tires at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...

Not that difficult. I ran 55's on a Mille on 014 Bridgestones. I did pick up the pace in the next session and run out of tire in t-2 though... ran right off the edge of the front tire. I guess I was a little eager with the throttle and the front lifted while at full lean. You can see where I ran off the edge on the tire. Poor suspension setup helped in that effort as well.
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Not that difficult. I ran 55's on a Mille on 014 Bridgestones. I did pick up the pace in the next session and run out of tire in t-2 though... ran right off the edge of the front tire. I guess I was a little eager with the throttle and the front lifted while at full lean. You can see where I ran off the edge on the tire. Poor suspension setup helped in that effort as well.
Easy for you to say and my hat's off to you.

I guess you just gotta know the limit of the tires you are riding on. If there is a sign of slipping the front end, I am changing it out.
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Sliding or "slipping" with tires is not necessarily a sign of wear. For instance, we used to race on DOT race 090's with our SV. The tires were well past their wear indicators but our pace was still within our first hour pace, and we experienced more spinning up rather than sliding the front. That's pretty consistent with tire wear, more with the rear than the front.

I think you hit the nail on the head with "knowing the limits" rather than needing to change your equipment. Knowing your limits, whether it be with your equipment or you personally, is the real key to riding well.

Seat time will tell you those limits, and what you can work toward with regard to lap times and ability. With seat time, you will learn the tires, what works well, what doesn't, and what suspension settings do as well as what changes work and don't work. That's another way that a good tuner at the track can help also.

Good riders that know their equipment and self well, can ride on tires that appear well worn or others would consider "done".

Gotta know your limits. I don't think people should go out and try riding on tires that look worn or are old just to see what happens or how they act. However, racing endurance over the years has taught me how to work with tires as they wear and learning what the bike does over the course of the tire wear.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:57 PM   #68
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probably weighted the handlebars and tucked the front end. hang your upper body off more. put your head where your mirror would be, drop your elbow towards your knee, your upper body will follow with it.
+1 A little off line will do it too.....:/:
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How do you learn from a crash when you dont know what the happened?
could be a number of things mate.... i know my last one was tire pressure as it felt different when a mate did it according to his specs...
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Not that difficult. I ran 55's on a Mille on 014 Bridgestones. I did pick up the pace in the next session and run out of tire in t-2 though... ran right off the edge of the front tire. I guess I was a little eager with the throttle and the front lifted while at full lean. You can see where I ran off the edge on the tire. Poor suspension setup helped in that effort as well.
I can run 2:03s all day long on BT014s on my F4i and have done a low of 2:01 flat...

If I'd just get my front end set up properly I'm confident I'd break the ol' 2 minute mark at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...
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As far as the reason for my crashes... one is a mystery to me, my lowside in T6 at TWS (Texas World Speedway). Still have no idea how that happened. The rearend just broke lose and next thing I know I was doing my best Nick Hayden dirt tracking impression with the back tire coming around on me!

My first crash (T8) at TWS (Texas World Speedway) was just a case of too much throttle, too tired of a rider and too much ego...
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As far as the reason for my crashes... one is a mystery to me, my lowside in T6 at TWS (Texas World Speedway). Still have no idea how that happened.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:26 PM   #73
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a ditch came out of nowhere and hit me.. i learned to stay away from them they are no bueno
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ouch...

Scotty D was behind me and he says it's one of the weirdest crashes he's ever seen... he said it was like slow motion.

I like to think that it was incredible throttle control that kept the bike on two wheels through about 80% of that corner.
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ouch...

Scotty D was behind me and he says it's one of the weirdest crashes he's ever seen... he said it was like slow motion.

I like to think that it was incredible throttle control that kept the bike on two wheels through about 80% of that corner.
Simple, that corner is a .
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