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Old 09-12-2007, 10:23 AM   #41
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people still break laws, this will just be another one
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:25 AM   #42
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I can't help but laugh at some of the reasons for not wearing a helmet listed above.
This is proving to me why the government has to impose these safety laws. People are just not smart enought o make the right choice, so the government has to do it for them.
in your eyes.. but to someone that does not wear a helmet, that may be the "right" choice for them
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:26 AM   #43
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I can't help but laugh at some of the reasons for not wearing a helmet listed above.
This is proving to me why the government has to impose these safety laws. People are just not smart enought o make the right choice, so the government has to do it for them.
...I don't think you actually read a darn thing posted in this thread.
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I'm all for peoples right to commit suicide, but go do it with a gun or jump off a building just to prove you could or something rather than raising my insurance rates & drawing more negative attention to the sport I love. Stupid people ruin everyone's fun.
So your motorcycle insurance pays your medical bills? Because mine sure as didn't. That's what my medical insurance is for. The motorcycle insurance only covered damage to the bike or other vehicles involved (excluding PIP). So regardless of whether you're wearing a helmet or not, that shouldn't matter as far as rates go. It's wrecking/stealing bikes that make rates go up not whether or not you got hurt 'cause you didn't have a helmet on.

And I am not one for letting the government control every aspect of my life, but I understand the reason why they step in with helmet laws and the like. (doesn't mean I agree though.)
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so since we cant decide for our selves whats safe

lets start a law that out laws unsafe bikes (all of them)
oh and take away all the guns
and 4 wheelers

and scooters those dangerous little bastards
oh and roller coasters

oh and our Dicks cause who knows what we can do with them!!!



One thing leads to another, yes maybe they wont confiscate our genitalia but everything else that is fun (but dangerous)
LMAO. Typical kneejerk reaction.
Read up on tiered licencing. It has been in place in Europe for a LONG time, and it works.

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Old 09-12-2007, 10:34 AM   #46
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LMAO. Typical kneejerk reaction.
Read up on tiered licencing. It has been in place in Europe for a LONG time, and it works.

yes maybe alittle uncalled for, my blood pressure was up.

But what does that have to do with wither or not the govenment should regulate OUR HELLLLLLMMMMMEEEETTTTS


I believe we should Do a whole lot more, before we get our M license.

But thats not what the debate is about.
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1. Riding a motorcycle on public roads directly effects other people physical well being. (i.e. a crash) therefore should be regulated (i.e. tiered systems, classes, licenses)

2. Wearing a HELMET or not wearing one, does not effect other people's physical well being nor any one of their constitutional rights. There fore SHOULD NOT be regulated. Should be upon the indiviual to make his/her own ADULT decision. NON-adults maybe regulated.
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1. Riding a motorcycle on public roads directly effects other people physical well being. (i.e. a crash) therefore should be regulated (i.e. tiered systems, classes, licenses)

2. Wearing a HELMET or not wearing one, does not effect other people's physical well being nor any one of their constitutional rights. There fore SHOULD NOT be regulated. Should be upon the indiviual to make his/her own ADULT decision. NON-adults maybe regulated.
that has to be one of the smartest things i've ever heard you say... who did you copy and paste that from
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And the only reason the "government" cares to regulate helmets is for Health/auto/life insurance companies.

People that don't wear helmets take in more insurance money after accidents.

Therefore less profit for big companies, which they in return raise everyones rates.

which health insurance and life insurance money is not what?

taxable.

ohhhhhhhhhhhh ya get it now?

they only make money off the PROFITS of those big companies.




It's a hard world out there people, the only thing you can guarantee is Death and Taxes.
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that has to be one of the smartest things i've ever heard you say... who did you copy and paste that from
i rlly is smart, i just put up a front so peoples like meh :/:
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i rlly is smart, i just put up a front so peoples like meh :/:
oh ok... dumb people don't like smart people so pretend to be dumb... no wonder i don't have many friends...
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oh ok... dumb people don't like smart people so pretend to be dumb... no wonder i don't have many friends...
hahahahahahhahahahahahaahah

its ok, if you keep letting me ride your 50 ill be your friend
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hahahahahahhahahahahahaahah

its ok, if you keep letting me ride your 50 ill be your friend
but a helmet is not required yet... we are still undecided
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How about this Helmet laws should be imposed so we dont have to hire people to pressure wash someone's brains off the street. I saw a guy's head bounce off the concrete on sunday's run at less than 5mph and trust me that guy wishs he had been wearing a helmet.
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How about this Helmet laws should be imposed so we dont have to hire people to pressure wash someone's brains off the street. I saw a guy's head bounce off the concrete on sunday's run at less than 5mph and trust me that guy wishs he had been wearing a helmet.
he/she (should) have paid his taxes.

his/her share should cover it. Along with all the taxes that come with death.
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.... anything over 30mph its not going to help anyways!

I've heard people say that too. Then I tell them to stand up and fall head first into the ground and tell me how it feels.

There was a show on Discovery Channel ('Crash Science', I think) that said it only takes a 3mph crash to give you a serious concussion and maybe brain damage.
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anything over 30mph its not going to help anyways!

show him this, arai's site says 140, dunno about that, but i was high speed, and dude's alive and not a veg.

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Do bicyclist have to wear helmets?

j/k But I think madatory helmet laws are stupid. Should be the choice of the rider if over 18. Dang if the stupid govt can send us off to die in some war they start why should they have the right to tell us we have to wear helmets to protect ourselves.

I wear one most of the time on the wing or the gixxer and alot of times on the chopper but sometimes I don't on the chopper because if feels more free not to wear one and I want that option.

p.s. I also hate seatbelt laws.
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the government lets us smoke and drink which both kill us and they know it kills us. it drives up the cost of health care for everyone. it makes them money though, through taxes and lobbying, so they allow it.
not wearing a helmet might kill you too, it might not. it might drive up the cost of insurance available to others, but let me say this... my bike insurance in TX is cheaper than my bike insurance in WV. WV has a mandatory helmet law. TX doesn't (with exceptions blah blah blah).
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