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View Poll Results: best caliber for personal protection
9mm 11 19.64%
.357 2 3.57%
.22 2 3.57%
.40 22 39.29%
.45 17 30.36%
other - specify 2 3.57%
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:31 PM   #41
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i'm just saying i prefer 22... smaller quieter and it bounces off bones.. put 2 in the chest and watch them die slow.
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put 2 in the chest and watch them die slow.


I suppose it makes you feel tough to say things like that, but real world aint like that. He just might die slow enough to shoot you back.

Mostly what has been said here is true, bottom line is if something goes down you will want to have something in your hand.
The typical bad guy is gonna be not so smart, likely on drugs and very scared about getting caught/hurt. If the sitgh of a gun in your hand doesn't do it... noise, the flash and the pain will make them run away almost everytime.
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military ammo is . there is more ammo available for the 9mm that make the power factor as high as the .40 . 147 grain +p 9mm is what i carry and have 147 grain +p+ that im going to try. id put t=either of those rounds against military ball .45 to see what works better . you cant comapare the military to the ammo that availible for us to use.
You're correct, most standard issue military ammo does not compare to even mid-grade commercial ammo.

However, my unit didn't use standard military ammo. Our armorer hand loaded ours for us.

I still prefer a .40 or .45 over the 9mm anyday, but you're welcome to your choice. We could argue ballistic gel tests / muzzle velocities all day, but at this point in life, I go with what I have seen work firsthand.

You are correct on the .357 Sig, and I may stilll purchase a weapon chambered for the round, but once again back stops / over penetration / collateral damage can be an issue.

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I suppose it makes you feel tough to say things like that, but real world aint like that. He just might die slow enough to shoot you back.

Mostly what has been said here is true, bottom line is if something goes down you will want to have something in your hand.
The typical bad guy is gonna be not so smart, likely on drugs and very scared about getting caught/hurt. If the sitgh of a gun in your hand doesn't do it... noise, the flash and the pain will make them run away almost everytime.

makes me feel tough to say **** YOU, 16 confirmed kills in Iraq you **** head. get off my nuts.

does it make you feel like a to tell you it doesnt phase me one bit to kill someone?
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wow, got me all angry and now.

i love people that THINK they know me. Can't wait to meet this douchebag.
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Geez dude I was just sayin that "Pump 2 in the chest and watch em die slow" sounds like a Van Damme movie.
I didn't claim to know you and I don't want to know you. While I appreciate your military service, I think callin me a douche bag just cuz I pointed out something you said is a little over agressive, don't you?
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Geez dude I was just sayin that "Pump 2 in the chest and watch em die slow" sounds like a Van Damme movie.
I didn't claim to know you and I don't want to know you. While I appreciate your military service, I think callin me a douche bag just cuz I pointed out something you said is a little over agressive, don't you?


situation dropped. douchebag status is on hold.
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I say 9mm because all the guys at work carry .40's, .45's, .357's... big guns... and I smoke ALL of 'em shooting a 9!

Seriously, a 9 is alot easier to shoot well, you can practice alot more for the same price (cheaper ammo), etc...

It really doesn't matter what caliber you're shooting, if you can't hit it, what good are you doing?!?! The 9 makes it easy!!!
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When life comes down to it..........any bullet is better then no bullet even .22 lr. First you want to look at is what type of weapon will you carry. Depending on that they might have different size guns in the respective caliber. moving forward, get the caliber you can handle the best....a shot that hit its target is better then missed. I will say that 9mm are known for not putting some people down (personal experience)but of course you can buy different type of ammo.
Long, you're just a super bad-... most guys would be down for the count after the first round!!!
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