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Old 09-10-2007, 11:15 AM   #81
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55-60 is a way too many even for a track like TWS (Texas World Speedway) if split out every 2 min.
This is an issue that needs to be addressed.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:16 AM   #82
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55-60 is a way too many even for a track like LSTD if split out every 2 min.
This is an issue that needs to be addressed.
Do you mean TWS (Texas World Speedway)?
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:19 AM   #83
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Do you mean TWS (Texas World Speedway)?
What the are you talkin about?
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:24 AM   #84
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55-60 is a way too many even for a track like TWS (Texas World Speedway) if split out every 2 min.
This is an issue that needs to be addressed.
The other big issue is why Dave Wonders didn't reply to Radar's email. I mean if he ask for feedback and gets it he should have responded. Radar is a business owner and that took time away from his business to help voice a concern for Dave's business and so Dave should have answered it IMO.
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The other big issue is why Dave Wonders didn't reply to Radar's email. I mean if he ask for feedback and gets it he should have responded. Radar is a business owner and that took time away from his business to help voice a concern for Dave's business and so Dave should have answered it IMO.
I agree, I question why he would not have received a reply back via telephone or e-mail. That is something I cannot understand.
Same with the trackday videos I've heard about people not receiving that have been paid for.

These are all issues that will be adressed to Dave and the rest of the RIDESMART team.
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I just spoke to Jason (Dave's Right Hand) and the guy that handles all the emails, phone calls, registration stuff.

It's not easy (the work) they do and manage. RideSmart has alot of track days and its objective is to provide a track for "as many riders as safely possible" that is why RideSmart tends to have more riders on the track in Level 1 & 2 compared to other organizations. Keep in mind RideSmart track days are the lowest in price, and an organization that provides instruction to all at no additional cost.

So obviously things will get backed up, from your video cam credits, to emails to phone calls, and let's face it in this busy world stuff gets overlooked.

Please don't be offended by it Radar - Jason is reading this thread as we speak and will surely take the appropriate action.

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As Black Widow was writing the above post I was on the receiving end of a phone call from Dave Wonders. We had a very long talk. Dave and I both pretty much held no punches, but kept everything constructive and productive. Dave apologized for not respnding to our emails - he says he doesn't remember specifically reading the other two emails from our group, but did remember mine, and again he apologized for not responding - I told him - apology accepted.

After debating the overcrowding issue very thoroughly I think I can state (hopefully without bias) the feelings as we ended our conversation.

My Feelings: Each session should be limited to around 30 participants per group (not including instructors). The reason I say "around 30" is because the size of the track can tweak the number a little.

Daves Feelings: He can safely conduct his track events limiting the number to 50 participants per group (not including instructors). He told me it is 50 per group at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and slightly less at Cresson ( I am not sure if he stated an exact number, if so I didn't hear it).

Dave did agree he had oversold some events prior to this year. Dave said he has not been receiving complaints about overcrowding this season. He assured me things had improved, and urged me to give Ridesmart another try. I told him I would - Good Lord Willing and the Creek Don't rise - I will.
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"Good Lord Willing & the Creek Don't rise"

Amen..

Glad you guys sorted out things Radar, i just wish in the future people can voice their issues and discuss them with the proper (people) in a proper (manner) so we can all get things sorted out and be helpful to one another.

Thanks for your co-operation Radar.

If anyone has any issues regarding RideSmart, feel free to post up or PM me (which ever you prefer).
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Radar,
I'm very glad to hear that this issue has been resolved.
At least for now.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:36 PM   #91
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It looks like Ride Smart is resolving many issues that have come up this year. (Including mine.) Kudos to them for making things right. It definetly seems to have been a ruff year for them but, they seem to have turned it around and are trying to get back on their A game.

RideSmart - Level 3 Ty Howard School is still the best bang for your buck racing school available in my opinion.
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RideSmart - Level 3 Ty Howard School is still the best bang for your buck racing school available in my opinion.
+10 For those that don't know...... he hold the track record at every track that CMRA races at by seconds.........
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THE NO PASSING RULES ARE GAY
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THE NO PASSING RULES ARE GAY
Even more gay when you are a tracknoob, do pass even though there is a no-passing rule and blow it and t-bone someone knocking them out of riding for months.

Until people learn lines and braking points and can be smooth, people shouldn't pass. Keep the passing to the intermediate/advanced groups.

What I don't get is that everyone tries to do levels by 'Speed'. How about levels strictly on experience, smoothness, ability to hold your line properly.

I think lines, proper braking and smoothness should come before fast. Until someone can do proper braking, hold their line and move around the track in a smooth manner, tell them to keep it under a certain speed. This would avoid the blasting on the straights and parking in the turns.... where a lot of the crashes happen.

Speed comes with advancement.

Beginner/Intermediate/Advanced should be just that and not Slow, Fast, Fastest.
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IM TALKING ABOUT THE ADVANCED GROUPS DARLIN'
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IM TALKING ABOUT THE ADVANCED GROUPS DARLIN'
I believe the No Passing in corners for the Advanced Group was only at the GSS event. VERY GAY Fosho..... I almost signed up for the event but then changed my mind at the last minute cause I knew there would be too many ghey issues to deal with being a first time event for GSS. After what I heard about the day...... I'm so happy I didn't go. Not to knock Ride Smart. I don't know what the their reasoning wasother than safety. But no pasing in corners in advanced classes is a big no no. I think they should have asked the avanced class how they felt about the idea first.
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Even more gay when you are a tracknoob, do pass even though there is a no-passing rule and blow it and t-bone someone knocking them out of riding for months.

Until people learn lines and braking points and can be smooth, people shouldn't pass. Keep the passing to the intermediate/advanced groups.

What I don't get is that everyone tries to do levels by 'Speed'. How about levels strictly on experience, smoothness, ability to hold your line properly.

I think lines, proper braking and smoothness should come before fast. Until someone can do proper braking, hold their line and move around the track in a smooth manner, tell them to keep it under a certain speed. This would avoid the blasting on the straights and parking in the turns.... where a lot of the crashes happen.

Speed comes with advancement.

Beginner/Intermediate/Advanced should be just that and not Slow, Fast, Fastest.

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wuddup Mark ! glad to see you on the track again last monday...
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We will meet again vader6 lol... I will be on a decent machine asap. Great to catch up!
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I believe the No Passing in corners for the Advanced Group was only at the GSS event. VERY GAY Fosho..... I almost signed up for the event but then changed my mind at the last minute cause I knew there would be too many ghey issues to deal with being a first time event for GSS. After what I heard about the day...... I'm so happy I didn't go. Not to knock Ride Smart. I don't know what the their reasoning wasother than safety. But no pasing in corners in advanced classes is a big no no. I think they should have asked the avanced class how they felt about the idea first.
maybe a riders meeting after the first session...........
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