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Old 08-29-2007, 09:59 AM   #21
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If you were already in 'the box' when the light turned red then technically you didn't run the stoplight. If any part of your tire was touching the line (the line that you're supposed to stop at) then you've ran the light. Fight it.
i'm thinkin he was in the middle of the road......so in otherwords, he ran a red.
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personnal responsability would mean stopping for the light, it also means accepting the ticket "cuz ya did it", and paying for it.
You're half right, personal responsibility is stopping for the red light because you know it is wrong.

Accepting the ticket and paying for it "cuz ya did it" is having somebody else monitoring your actions. When I became an adult, I became a free thinker and only person that makes choices for me.
If the government needs to step in and make choices for you, what else do they need to decide for you? It is called facsism... This is suposed to be a liberal democracy, remember?
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Get the spray stuff for your plate that reflects too much for the camera to get a pic.

I just hate the idiots that practically lock up their brakes in front of you when they see yellow cause they're scared of getting a ticket, but them and the 3 cars behind them could have made it.
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If you were already in 'the box' when the light turned red then technically you didn't run the stoplight. If any part of your tire was touching the line (the line that you're supposed to stop at) then you've ran the light. Fight it.
You can fight it all you want but you will not win. This system is already calculated in timing wise before it will snap a picture of the offenders. When the light turns yellow there are a 3 sec window for the one that is almost at the intersection to pass/cross. After that 3 sec is up and you run it, it is illegal. They will educate you on how these things work in court and they will ask you when you see a yellow light what do you do? BUSTED, case closed.
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Accepting the ticket and paying for it "cuz ya did it" is having somebody else monitoring your actions. When I became an adult, I became a free thinker and only person that makes choices for me.
If the government needs to step in and make choices for you, what else do they need to decide for you? It is called facsism... This is suposed to be a liberal democracy, remember?
mamby pansy PC BS......you did it, it's on film, pay for it and get on w/ your life. next time don't run the light. taking the criminal aspect out of the picture makes it easier to swallow.
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I have been honked at sooo many times at the 1960 and 249 one. I stop the second I see yellow I donít want a fricken ticket. I will probably get rear ended one day by some idiot wondering why I am stopping on a yellow.
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I have been honked at sooo many times at the 1960 and 249 one. I stop the second I see yellow I donít want a fricken ticket. I will probably get rear ended one day by some idiot wondering why I am stopping on a yellow.
I get that too in the same area. I have had to move to the side before b/c they couldn't stop as fast as the Gixxer. Funny I never have that problem in my F-150...
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I became a free thinker and only person that makes choices for me.
If the government needs to step in and make choices for you
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This is going to keep going until bikes are illegal, everybody uses mass tansit, and you have a big brother web cam in your house to prevent domestic violance.

WTF ever happened to personal responsibility?!
I guess that was unfashionable with the Constitution.
Personal Responsibility, in this scenario, means don't run a red light, or you'll get a ticket. And since they tagged you with a camera, it'll be hard to fight it. So accept responsibility, and pay the fine/Driver's Ed./whatever...

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If the government needs to step in and make choices for you, what else do they need to decide for you? It is called facsism... This is suposed to be a liberal democracy, remember?
Ummm... Isn't this what Dem Libs is all about? /just kidding.... not really.
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thats the diff. between us old folks and the youngins, personnal responsabilty doesn't really mean "them" to the youngins it's somebody else's fault.......lol
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i'm thinkin he was in the middle of the road......so in otherwords, he ran a red.
Wrong. If you've passed the line (where the crosswalk usually is) before the light turns red then you haven't run the light.


What is a red light running violation?
A red light running violation occurs when a motorist enters an intersection after the traffic signal has turned red. Motorists already in the intersection when the signal changes to red, when waiting to turn for example, are not considered red light violators.


If you pay this ticket, you're a chump. Fight it.

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thats the diff. between us old folks and the youngins, personnal responsabilty doesn't really mean "them" to the youngins it's somebody else's fault.......lol
And there you go again with your mindless ageism . Age is not necessarily the determining factor when dealing with responsibility. But since you're "old folk" you already know this, right? What am I saying? , you know everything. Silly me.
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^ so why question it.

i know all.

so den if your in the middle of an intersection and it turns red, you just ran a yellow?
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^ so why question it.

i know all.

so den if your in the middle of an intersection and it turns red, you just ran a yellow?
There's no such violation as 'running a yellow'.
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Wrong. If you've passed the line (where the crosswalk usually is) before the light turns red then you haven't run the light.


What is a red light running violation?
A red light running violation occurs when a motorist enters an intersection after the traffic signal has turned red. Motorists already in the intersection when the signal changes to red, when waiting to turn for example, are not considered red light violators.


If you pay this ticket, you're a chump. Fight it.
You're right. The cops will ticket you anyway, even if you're waiting for traffic to turn left, but he's just wasting everyone's time and money in hopes that you will pay the ticket. In a court of law, though, you had already crossed the line. It still comes down to you vs. the cop. It's just a waste of time all in all.... and the taxpayer's $ as well.
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There's no such violation as 'running a yellow'.
I think, that was his point.

Yellow is supposed to be a warning that the light is going to change...and to prepare to stop unless you cannot do so safely.
Too often now you'll see multiple cars blow yellow and the full red afterwords.
It's a problem... how would ya'll propose to FIX it then?
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he would talk w/ them and cousel them and talk some more......maybe more counseling........lol
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The bottom line is: it's best just to hit the brakes when the light turns yellow. It's simply safer overall, especially, from a Motorcyclist's POV, if the guy you t-bone is another motorcyclist.
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Yellow is supposed to be a warning that the light is going to change...and to prepare to stop unless you cannot do so safely.
Too often now you'll see multiple cars blow yellow and the full red afterwords.
It's a problem... how would ya'll propose to FIX it then?
Just what the city ordered, camera at intersection getting people blowing the yellow light.
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You're right. The cops will ticket you anyway, even if you're waiting for traffic to turn left, but he's just wasting everyone's time and money in hopes that you will pay the ticket. In a court of law, though, you had already crossed the line. It still comes down to you vs. the cop. It's just a waste of time all in all.... and the taxpayer's $ as well.
I got a ticket like this once. The cop was sitting way on the other side of the fwy at a gas station. I argued (in court) that he couldnt see the line from that vantage point. I took pictures and everything. I know well the light was yellow when I went through it. I ended up winning the case. Ha.
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