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Old 08-08-2007, 09:59 PM   #1
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Two R6's. 2k vs. 2004

Since my bike is knocked in the head, my buddy who never rides his 2000 model says to me today, " Dude, ride my bike. I never ride it, you'd be doing me a favor.. " Oooookay I say, and meet him at church and afterwards take his bike home. Mind you, this thing is bone stock, down to the tires. Now my question is this... How in the world can this bike handle better than my 2004? It feels more responsive, ( not throttle, talking about handling ) its lighter, seems to be narrower, is more comfortable... I was tossing this bike around like my wife's FZ, when it seems like I have to fight my 04 into a corner. Could my bike be that out of wack? I've never actually had the suspension set up. Were the 2000 model's better handlers than the 2004's?

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could be the ergonomics.

tires, suspension, the rider, mind games!
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my first bike was a 2000 model R6. . .i loved that bike!!!!
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I have ridden an 02 and 04 R6 it does ride different. 02 does seems lighter and easier to throw around and quicker too. No ideas why either.
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Old 08-09-2007, 12:49 AM   #7
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things that would make it seem to steer better:
different tires (or even differently worn tires or tire pressures)
different suspension settings (its all adjustable so who knows how its set up)
wider bars, maybe? those make a big difference in creating a feeling of quick turn in.
addition of a steering stabilizer/dampner on your bike might make one without feel quicker...
dunno.
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maybe you should sit on a honda and then sell your R6
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The other day I was just reading an article in Sport Rider mag and they did kind of a cool thing. They wanted to see if you have a few year old bike w/ some decent mods, is it really worth it to buy the latest and greatest. They compared a new 2007 R6 to a 2007 R6s (which is like an older R6) and they were really surprised at the results. The "older" R6 had way better midrange performance, and with the mods they had on it, they decided it was the better "overall" bike between the two. The R6 (r version if you want to call it) only got great reviews in race-type situations (at the top end of its rev-range).
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The other day I was just reading an article in Sport Rider mag and they did kind of a cool thing. They wanted to see if you have a few year old bike w/ some decent mods, is it really worth it to buy the latest and greatest. They compared a new 2007 R6 to a 2007 R6s (which is like an older R6) and they were really surprised at the results. The "older" R6 had way better midrange performance, and with the mods they had on it, they decided it was the better "overall" bike between the two. The R6 (r version if you want to call it) only got great reviews in race-type situations (at the top end of its rev-range).

yeah of course the r6s is better on the street.

they dont call the R6 a race-replica for nothing.

track bike with headlights.
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Personally I find it much easier to go fast on older"slower" models since I can actually start "pushing" or at least finding the limits on them. It;s also the reason I went to a much slower bike than what I've ever had previously and it seems to be paying off as I've dropped at least 10-15 seconds at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on the SV650 compared to the FZ1(never took the 750 there). my .02
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yeah of course the r6s is better on the street.

they dont call the R6 a race-replica for nothing.

track bike with headlights.
Yes, but even in track situations the R6s would not be outmatched unless being ridden by a rider who can get that last bit out of it. Also, the percentage of the new R6 bikes that actually hit the track? Not very high...

They also put a 2001 (i think) GSXR1K against a 2007 GSXR 1K...
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not too many people reading these boards need to be on a "race bike with headlights" anyway(IMO of course). Most of us can't ride our bikes to their full potential as it is. . .
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If your tires are squred off - even a little bit - and his are nice, new and round, it can really affect that "tip-in" feeling.

New tires make a bike feel SO much more responsive.
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If your tires are squred off - even a little bit - and his are nice, new and round, it can really affect that "tip-in" feeling.

New tires make a bike feel SO much more responsive.
I bet thats what it is. It is quite squared off, with 6000 miles on it. May be time for a replacement.

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The other day I was just reading an article in Sport Rider mag and they did kind of a cool thing. They wanted to see if you have a few year old bike w/ some decent mods, is it really worth it to buy the latest and greatest. They compared a new 2007 R6 to a 2007 R6s (which is like an older R6) and they were really surprised at the results. The "older" R6 had way better midrange performance, and with the mods they had on it, they decided it was the better "overall" bike between the two. The R6 (r version if you want to call it) only got great reviews in race-type situations (at the top end of its rev-range).
Hey bro, you wouldn't happen to know the issue of that Sport Rider would you? The reason I ask is, I am buying an 01 Gix 1k and I am curious about old road tests on it etc....I want to see how outdated it is...LOL
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what tires are you running to get 6k out of em?

07 GSXR 1000 vs 01 GSXR 1000 and 07 VS 03 YZF-R6, Sport Rider, August 2007

Ride magazine May 2007 also did an 01 GSXR thou against the new 07.
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Hey bro, you wouldn't happen to know the issue of that Sport Rider would you? The reason I ask is, I am buying an 01 Gix 1k and I am curious about old road tests on it etc....I want to see how outdated it is...LOL
Yep, it was the August isssue. I got it at the Airport when I was traveling a couple of weeks ago.

The disparity between the GSXR 1Ks was much greater than the R6's. However, they still said the 2001 GSXR was a very capable bike. They did basic mods which included Race Tech re-valves on the forks & shock, re-geared chain/sprockets, exhaust (think it was a full system) and that's really about it. They put same rubber on both bikes so they were on equal footing. The 2001 was way lighter than the 2007. But the motor was much stronger in 2007, but it's not like the 01 GSXR didn't make any power at all. It's just the newer ones make crazy power...
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what tires are you running to get 6k out of em?
no !!! I got about 4000 on a pirelli diablo and now see chords. No burnouts, but in the rain, I have been known to clutch it here and there and spin a little
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