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Old 10-09-2016, 02:37 PM   #1
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Buy new one from dealer or pre-owned from cl

Just got my license couple weeks ago, still try to find a bike to ride.

Current plan is not going to buy some fancy bike, just find a bike that ride on weekend, sometimes, use it for commute, have fun, cheap and easy maintenance.

After visit several dealership and compare with private seller, these are what I know so far.

From dealership,
Pro
1. Brand new bike
2. Warranty for one year, generally, should not use any warranty in first year.
3. Highly likely the bike is not going to have any problem.
4. Financing option
Con
1. Extra fees. Freight, assemble the bike, inspect(not sure if this is same with state one), documentation + archive those documentation fee.

I asked about 2015 CB500F. Price listed is around 5999. OTD will be around 7500.

From private seller,
Pro
1. Avoid tons of fees.
2. Reasonable price.
Con
1. Mechanical problem
2. possible title issue
3. Need to deal with DMV.

For now, I am trying to find a bike size like CB500F SFV650.


Do I miss anything?
Is there place/website that I can learn some mechanical knowledge?

Any suggestion or comment is good!

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Old 10-09-2016, 03:29 PM   #3
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Go the CL route, 85% of it is good. If you need help looking at a bike, post up and someone from MH (including myself) will gladly go with you.

Many people are having tough times, and some great deals can be had. You have cash in hand? If you credit is decent a credit union will finance you at decent rates.

Keep your eyes out in the MH classifieds. I've personally purchased items at great deals.

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Old 10-09-2016, 04:05 PM   #4
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Craigslist. Hard times in Houston means many used bikes way under Blue Book.
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Old 10-09-2016, 04:38 PM   #5
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You laid it out pretty clearly, pros and cons for each.

If it were me, I'd go used. But definitely consult with AN EXPERIENCED BUYER before making a used purchase.

When dealing with CL, look at things other than the bike as well. Does he mow his lawn? Is his place clean or a dump? This usually indicates how they maintain their things
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Old 10-09-2016, 04:49 PM   #6
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I always recommend getting a naked bike as the first bike. You'd be amazed at how much the plastic fairings cost, and how easy it is for them to scratch/break. New riders (and even some older ones...) will almost always at some point do something stupid...like forgetting to put the kick stand down. Or just dropping it at a stop light for no reason whatsoever.

Better to ride a naked bike for a year or so you get off craigslist for cheap, sell it in a year for what you paid for it, and then get the bike you really want. The first bike you buy will NOT be your last; no sense spending a lot of money for your learning bike.
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Many buy small cc bikes to learn on, then sell them. Other than cosmetic damage, they will usually be very sound.

Not to mention, you can get an older sv650 for next to nothing and have a good "beginner" bike, that is also a great all around bike (even track use).

Like others said though, get an experience rider to help you. Plenty of us here was willing to help anytime.
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:32 PM   #8
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I always recommend getting a naked bike as the first bike. You'd be amazed at how much the plastic fairings cost, and how easy it is for them to scratch/break. New riders (and even some older ones...) will almost always at some point do something stupid...like forgetting to put the kick stand down. Or just dropping it at a stop light for no reason whatsoever.

Better to ride a naked bike for a year or so you get off craigslist for cheap, sell it in a year for what you paid for it, and then get the bike you really want. The first bike you buy will NOT be your last; no sense spending a lot of money for your learning bike.
This is my mindset as well but now that I do the dirty riding Id suggest a DRZ400S. Still have fun on the streets, easy maintenance, can throw it down some stairs and it will look and ride the same. Waaay more options to explore around Houston.
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:50 PM   #9
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When dealing with CL, look at things other than the bike as well. Does he mow his lawn? Is his place clean or a dump? This usually indicates how they maintain their things
Hey, man...I take better care of my bike than anything else I own. Garage is a wreck and the yard will go uncut for weeks, but my bike is solid.
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Buy used.

If possible, have the bike taken to Motorcycles Unlimited with Patrick for an inspection.

Or possibly another place you trust, but Motorcycles Unlimited is trustworthy.

PS.Buy a naked bike of some type as already mentioned.
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:26 PM   #11
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I would also advise to buy used but 7500 is getting raped on a CB500. If you did go new shop around for a better price.

The CB500 is a great bike for what you want. Get one used for 4000. I would get the X model if you can handle the looks.
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If your choose to buy off of CL or any other site -

*MAKE SURE YOU CAN PHYSICALLY PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE MOTORCYCLE*

DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are nearly 100 bikes that go up for sale every day in the Houston area. You DO NOT need to get that awesome deal in Florida or NY. Dallas and San Antonio have another 150.

I'm sure it happens more often than I know about but a good friend would NOT listen and sent off $2500 for a 2012 GSXR 1000 from CL...... The email he got after replying to the add said that the husband was killed in Afghanistan and she couldn't bare to have it sitting there any longer. It was in a crate in a warehouse in Minnesota - - yada yada yada... bs bs bs big sob story. Of course he lost his cash to a fkcuing stolen valor .

I'm just saying to protect your hard earned cash. Don't be na´ve. Verify - it's your money so it's your responsibility.
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If your choose to buy off of CL or any other site -

*MAKE SURE YOU CAN PHYSICALLY PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE MOTORCYCLE*

DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are nearly 100 bikes that go up for sale every day in the Houston area. You DO NOT need to get that awesome deal in Florida or NY. Dallas and San Antonio have another 150.

I'm sure it happens more often than I know about but a good friend would NOT listen and sent off $2500 for a 2012 GSXR 1000 from CL...... The email he got after replying to the add said that the husband was killed in Afghanistan and she couldn't bare to have it sitting there any longer. It was in a crate in a warehouse in Minnesota - - yada yada yada... bs bs bs big sob story. Of course he lost his cash to a fkcuing stolen valor .

I'm just saying to protect your hard earned cash. Don't be na´ve. Verify - it's your money so it's your responsibility.
An idiot friend of mine just fell for the same exact thing, same story just a different vehicle

They wouldn't be trying it if there wasn't people in the world who have fallen for it. I also have a coworker whose parents lost the majority of their money/retirement to the nigerians due to the whole "lottery winning" story. SMH
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That CB500F is a nice little bike.
You can always ask for a warranty on a used bike as part of the negotiations. It could be a little as 30 days, just get it in writing.
I'd also insist that you be allowed to have a used bike inspected by a shop such as Motorcycles Unlimited.
Craigs List is definitely BUYER BEWARE. You need to know what you're doing.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:36 PM   #15
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Thank you all first for suggestions.
I now think I should aim to CB300F or similar size bike, used one, scratch is okay as long as it doesn't damage the structure.
Yeah, I am also not going to send money to someone who has weird offer. In fact, I am thinking to meet seller in some public place which close to bank. If the bike okay, go to back to get cash in case any bad guy try to rob.
Another good suggestion is bring bike to shop and thank you for providing me shop info.
For now, find a good bike from CL is my next task.

Found this video on youtube.

This is what I learned from this video.
1. Check the engine oil (bike should tand)
2. Look of bike. possible damage, scratch, or broken part?
3. Chain is important, too loose or too tight. ( I don't think I really know what loose is too loose)
4. Start and ride it. Make sure all lights are working and everything should work normally.
5. Make sure break work and clutch work.
6. Ride it to 50 mph to see if bike shake. (If start shaking, this means?)

These are what I got from this video.
Again, any suggestion is good.

Thank you guys!
Really learn a lot.
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Great beginner bike. Just remember once you get confident, and if you don't ride it to work daily---you might get bored.

If you decide to do some group rides, the bike might get a bit winded trying to keep up. This CB might be tough for you to re-sell. Not many people have the mind set you have. Did you research a R3 or Ninja 300? These bikes would be easier to sell.
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Classified here are a good source. At the least you can research the seller's username to find out what kind of riding they do, some maintenance, ripped anyone off, etc.
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and if you don't ride it to work daily---you might get bored.

This CB might be tough for you to re-sell.
A single cylinder would be tough to ride to work daily. Respect to anyone that does it but twins like the CB500f are too readily available to deal with riding a single when commuting.

Huge difference between the two engines. Far more than the 286cc vs 471cc on the spec sheet.
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if the dealer has what you want used, and at a reasonable price, go that route.
craigslist is great though... you take some risks when you go cl, but it can be worth it.
yeah, you might get shot or robbed, or both, and the bike might be stolen, and you might wind up buying a bike held together with duct tape and chewing gum, but as long as you never pursue anything that has an unbelievably low price, or "just needs a new battery and the carbs cleaned", you might have some success. i have also met a couple of really cool moto enthusiasts through my cl dealings. you will save a lot of money. i once sold a great running vfr750 though cl for $1500. the stupid kid got a great deal, and didnt hesitate to ask for my helmet, too, lol.

i wouldnt recommend buying new from the dealer though.
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