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Old 09-18-2016, 05:11 PM   #21
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I don't know why you afraid to hurt someone's feelings. Better that then some hat taking someone out. It's the job of the sweeper in my book. He should be the one watching the group and making sure nobody is left behind or anybody acting a fool. Sweeper isn't the slow guy he's the experienced guy that is the eyes and ears of the leader.
Yeah, but sometimes they're so far back due to riders ahead of them they can't see the entire group.
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:13 PM   #23
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I believe if someone is doing something wrong they should be told. I know if I was doing something wrong I would want someone to tell me. If not, how will I correct it/improve?

I've enjoyed all your rides.
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Yeah, but sometimes they're so far back due to riders ahead of them they can't see the entire group.
Its not you and Jimmy's rides. We stayed pretty tight when I rode with them.
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Its not you and Jimmy's rides. We stayed pretty tight when I rode with them.
Jimmy hand picks his group which is a great idea for the pace he likes to ride...im trying not to put restrictions on the talent level which brings a wide variety of skill levels into play...im sure if i say we are having a faster pace day you will still get those who think they can ride the pace and cant...Jimmy has asked me to his ride but i dont feel my skill level is up to his so thats why i havent gone...
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Keith you do a wonderful job with your rides. You should continue doing what you do. You are very passionate about organizing these rides and leading them.


IMO you just need to set some ground rules straight and anyone not willi g to follow the basic safety protocol needs to be banned from the rides.
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The main reason i stopped posting rides here was because the groups size would get too large to manage and frankly i have to admit i found it hard to maintain a slow pace throughout the ride.
If you need any help sending people home let bevo, sohil or me know..we can come help.
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Keith you do a wonderful job with your rides. You should continue doing what you do. You are very passionate about organizing these rides and leading them.


IMO you just need to set some ground rules straight and anyone not willi g to follow the basic safety protocol needs to be banned from the rides.
#1 gear
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#3 no passing in corners.
#4 no unsafe behavior.

The main reason i stopped posting rides here was because the groups size would get too large to manage and frankly i have to admit i found it hard to maintain a slow pace throughout the ride.
If you need any help sending people home let bevo, sohil or me know..we can come help.
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Its really an easy fix but egos get in the way...all that has to be done is people paying attention to the ones in front and back of them...if you see your holding up someone wave them past OR if you want to go faster than the one in front of you pass them in a safe manner...seems easy right?...WRONG...no-one wants to be THAT guy...i have no problem mentioning it to ones who need a little guidence as long as everyone is aware that it could be them and take it as a safety issue and not get upset...everyone has there pace that they feel comfortable with and thats fine as long as you find your correct place in line...i know people that can ride circles around me so i just let em go...
My wife and i look forward to the weekends to do these rides and i dont want to stop...but when it gets to where people arent enjoying themselves i take it personally like im letting the group down...
I agree...honestly there is no fix other than riding with a close nit group of riders who know their place. Any "open" ride is always going to have this problem.

Last group ride I did was with Bevo. I had been off a sportish bike for a few years but had just purchased a Speed Triple. There was 8 or so of us and I opted to stay in the back since I had not ridden in a group setting nor street rides in a while. Needless to say when we hit the twisties, Bevo and Trish set a fast pace, the riders in front of me couldnt keep up with them. I ended up passing the other riders and kept Bevo and Trish in my sights. I remember seeing the look on a guys face when I passed him initially. He tried to keep up and ran wide a few turns gling into Fayetville and finally fell back.

Point is....if you don't know the riders around you snd their skill level it will always be a cluster .

On the motard rides I use to host, we rode so many times together that we were near rubbing tires and elbows without a single issue.
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I agree...honestly there is no fix other than riding with a close nit group of riders who know their place. Any "open" ride is always going to have this problem.

Last group ride I did was with Bevo. I had been off a sportish bike for a few years but had just purchased a Speed Triple. There was 8 or so of us and I opted to stay in the back since I had not ridden in a group setting nor street rides in a while. Needless to say when we hit the twisties, Bevo and Trish set a fast pace, the riders in front of me couldnt keep up with them. I ended up passing the other riders and kept Bevo and Trish in my sights. I remember seeing the look on a guys face when I passed him initially. He tried to keep up and ran wide a few turns gling into Fayetville and finally fell back.

Point is....if you don't know the riders around you snd their skill level it will always be a cluster .

On the motard rides I use to host, we rode so many times together that we were near rubbing tires and elbows without a single issue.
Those motard rides were epic!
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Thanks, but it was simple advice that you could regurgitate during the riders meeting at your next group ride since not everyone follows motohouston
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Its not you and Jimmy's rides. We stayed pretty tight when I rode with them.
Uh, I've been on a Morgstang ride that was a large group and there was no way for the sweeper to see the leader and everyone in between.
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Uh, I've been on a Morgstang ride that was a large group and there was no way for the sweeper to see the leader and everyone in between.
How would you know? You were up front.
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How would you know? You were up front.
Cause I dropped towards the back where there was a lot of space and I could hit the turns harder
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your sure it was just a, FEW unsafe riders ??????????
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Sorry guys, it was me. I hate people passing me is all...

All kidding aside, I stay in the back of the pack being a new rider. If someone gets close behind me, I have no issue waving that person to PLEASE go in front. Better for him and better for me. I can ride my 75% pace in peace and that person can do his thing without being held back.

I have enjoyed each and every ride I have had with Morgstang and co. Hope a few spoiled eggs won't ruin it all for the rest of us. Where else am I gonna get fast sweepers fix :(
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There are only two ways to deal with open rides, and both take experienced regulars you trust. Once is a fixed pace...10-over, 15-over, 10-under double, etc. Your experienced regulars will be scattered throughout the group watching and reporting in at each stop.

Option two is a split group. First half of ride is as above. Second half your experienced regulars take a faster group ahead while you maintain the slower pace. No one makes it to the fast group their first time out.

Any riders caught gapping get moved to the back at the next stop and are not invited back. Guess it really boils down to you needing more eyes in your group.
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