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Old 08-24-2016, 12:23 PM   #21
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It should be policy to call off the car pursuit and call in a member of the MHSPST.
"Motorcycle High Speed Pursuit Specialist Team".
I would have NO trouble stopping. I might even TRY to get caught!!!
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I, sadly, have been on both sides, chaser and chasee. I think 90% of running is adrenalin and a moment of panic, then it's tough to quit. On the POPO side flags fly up on why is the person running and stopping them is the only way to find out.
Stopping after running even 2 minutes means a world of hurt, in the runners head. It never ends well, but there is no flag to throw that says "stupid move, I'm done", but it would be nice.
Keep in mind the guy behind the badge was young once and makes mistakes, tell them your story. And nobody likes blue lights behind them, even the POPO on their day off.
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Yes. I was referring to pursuits in general. This is a big problem across the country.
Yeah, it makes total sense to let anyone that decides to run just run because it's safer for them. Run, crash, natural selection prevails.
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Sucks for the person/s in the SUV and the clean-up crew that has to break out the human spatula.
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and the people in the car that the rider hit? I'm actually more concerned about the bystanders affected that really had nothing to do with the decision to run or the decision to pursue.
Ok I finally believe you. Not a cop.
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2 years ago a guy I work with did the same thing, just not being chased by cops. He rode his Busa to work on Bay Area over near NASA. He was behind two cars at a red light. When it turned green he got too eager. Before he got through the intersection he had swung into the center lane and passed them (with a bit of fancy lane splitting).

By the time he made it about one block down, there was a break in the boulevard so oncoming traffic could cross and go into apartments. An oncoming SUV turned right in front of him.

No skid marks. Based on the impact it was estimated he was probably going in excess of 90 mph. Mom and Dad in the front and two little girls in the back. They were all fine, but the girls were really freaked out.

It's a good thing he had on a helmet. The rest of him was smashed to FKUCING ! Now that I think about it, maybe the helmet didn't matter.

The driver said that when he initially saw the bike it was far enough away that there was plenty of time to cross into the apartments, but he didn't realize the bike was coming at more than twice the normal speed.

When you're just wearing a T-shirt you actually do kinda splatter like a bug on a windshield.
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Ok I finally believe you. Not a cop.
hahahahaaa...did you ever talk w/ Sean & Eric?
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2 years ago a guy I work with did the same thing, just not being chased by cops. He rode his Busa to work on Bay Area over near NASA. He was behind two cars at a red light. When it turned green he got too eager. Before he got through the intersection he had swung into the center lane and passed them (with a bit of fancy lane splitting).

By the time he made it about one block down, there was a break in the boulevard so oncoming traffic could cross and go into apartments. An oncoming SUV turned right in front of him.

No skid marks. Based on the impact it was estimated he was probably going in excess of 90 mph. Mom and Dad in the front and two little girls in the back. They were all fine, but the girls were really freaked out.

It's a good thing he had on a helmet. The rest of him was smashed to FKUCING ! Now that I think about it, maybe the helmet didn't matter.

The driver said that when he initially saw the bike it was far enough away that there was plenty of time to cross into the apartments, but he didn't realize the bike was coming at more than twice the normal speed.

When you're just wearing a T-shirt you actually do kinda splatter like a bug on a windshield.
I've always been told that the leather racing suits are really only for sliding protection. Brunt force impact is something that you really can't protect the body from on a bike. And the leather suits make nice bags to help pick up the mess afterwards. Kind of like picking up gumbo in a freezer bag.

Still, wear protection as you never know what you may need.
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I've always been told that the leather racing suits are really only for sliding protection. Brunt force impact is something that you really can't protect the body from on a bike. And the leather suits make nice bags to help pick up the mess afterwards. Kind of like picking up gumbo in a freezer bag.

Still, wear protection as you never know what you may need.
Most have CE armor, MotoGP suites have airbags. Even the best helmets can't stop your brain from impacting your skull.
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Most have CE armor, MotoGP suites have airbags. Even the best helmets can't stop your brain from impacting your skull.
Exactly, which is the point I think HoustonHD was trying to make.

Its still gonna be a mess, just contained within the dumbasses bag of skin
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Exactly, which is the point I think HoustonHD was trying to make.

Its still gonna be a mess, just contained within the dumbasses bag of skin
They provide more than just road rash protection, that's my point
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They provide more than just road rash protection, that's my point
Understood, but I am not sure how many folks choosing to run from the cops will be rolling around in a MotoGP suit w/Aribags

It's also unlikely some padding will keep you alive when you hit an almost stationary object while approaching triple digit speeds.
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It's also unlikely some padding will keep you alive when you hit an almost stationary object while approaching triple digit speeds.
I think I covered that when referring to helmets
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External signs of damage may not even be visible. When the bolts shear from your kidneys and liver and they slide off of their brackets and bunch up like fajita meat in a plastic bag- - - - When your spleen ruptures like a bratwurst on a grill - - - when your gall bladder looks like grape thrown against a brick wall - - -

well, at least you can still have an open casket. They put a stitch in your eyelids anyway so it doesn't matter if your eyeballs came out and dangled like clacker .
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