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Old 08-03-2007, 10:41 AM   #1
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Creek Machine Gun Shoot

No need to worry about the reds invading when civilians have access to weapons like this. Back in 2001 I was at sportmans outlet shooting when a guy in the lane next to me purchased a supressed h&k mp5 for the paltry sum of $18,000, makes you wonder what some of these weapons cost.

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Someday we're going to go to that....when we lived in AZ we had our own small machine gun shoots. People we knew would just bring out whatever fun goodies they had (millions of dollars in guns) and TONS of ammo and would let you shoot their stuff. So cool! I shot my first Tommy-Gun like that and my friend Tisha was shooting some huge thing on a bipod. Nothing like tearing up the side of a mountain with machine gun fire!!!
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Someday we're going to go to that....when we lived in AZ we had our own small machine gun shoots. People we knew would just bring out whatever fun goodies they had (millions of dollars in guns) and TONS of ammo and would let you shoot their stuff. So cool! I shot my first Tommy-Gun like that and my friend Tisha was shooting some huge thing on a bipod. Nothing like tearing up the side of a mountain with machine gun fire!!!


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Old 08-03-2007, 10:53 AM   #5
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I guess the lead gets so deep they have to go out and pick it up after a while.
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Wow that is superredneck. Not saying good or bad, just superredneck. Seems like a lot of ammo used....
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that would be the guy from Texas...
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i doubt if most rednecks can afford those guns...or would pass the background checks and money required for the tax stamps. Factor in ammo costs.

.223 is going for around 350 per thousand, with 308 being more than that. The cheapest ones to shoot would probably the AK's with with mil surp ammo, and even that has gone up. Full auto eats ammo and money fast.
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i doubt if most rednecks can afford those guns...or would pass the background checks and money required for the tax stamps. Factor in ammo costs.

.223 is going for around 350 per thousand, with 308 being more than that. The cheapest ones to shoot would probably the AK's with with mil surp ammo, and even that has gone up. Full auto eats ammo and money fast.
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I am still amazed to hear people say things like this are "redneck"! Andre3k hit the nail on the head when he talked about the price. I don't know too many rednecks that can afford to own and operate a machine gun. These people are doctors, lawyers and other professionals that can afford an expensive hobby like this. These are definitely not people who are "rednecks".

I own two of the cheaper MG's that you can get. One is worth a little over a thousand ($1200-1300) and the other is worth $5-6k. This does not include the tax stamps. When you figure you can burn through 1350 rounds per minute in one of 9mm, and 850 rounds per minute of .223/5.56mm.

$7.95/box of 50rds 9mm = $.159 X 1350 = $214.65/ minute to operate
$250/box of 1000rds .223 = $.25 X 850 = $212.50/ minute to operate

These are not your average shotguns and hunting rifles with a scope. These are NOT "redneck" toys.
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I thought of one more example. One of my favorites:

The MG42 has a cyclic rate of 1200 rounds/ minute. The cheap surplus ammo (usually corrosive primed) is approximately $.33 per round.

$.33 X 1200 = $396.00/ minute to operate.

There are many machine guns that cost more than a nice house to purchase and some cost thousands of dollars per MINUTE to operate like the G.E. Mini-gun.

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what causes the shot to be visible at night? is there a chemical on them that reacts once the shot is fired? or is it just red hot?
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Those are called "tracer" rounds. They frequently use magnesium or phosporus which burns bright and hot. It is ignited when the cartridge is fired. Usually, one is loaded every 3-5 rounds in the magazine or belt. This helps the shooter guide their fire at night. The caveat is that it also can allow the enemy to see your location as you shoot. Tracers come in several different varieties. Some ignite immediately and can burn for short or long periods of time. Some have a delayed ignition that will begin its burn well after exiting the barrel to prevent some of the issues with giving your position away.

Tracers are fun to shoot at night but are definitely a fire hazard in dry conditions.
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Those are called "tracer" rounds. They frequently use magnesium or phosporus which burns bright and hot. It is ignited when the cartridge is fired. Usually, one is loaded every 3-5 rounds in the magazine or belt. This helps the shooter guide their fire at night. The caveat is that it also can allow the enemy to see your location as you shoot. Tracers come in several different varieties. Some ignite immediately and can burn for short or long periods of time. Some have a delayed ignition that will begin its burn well after exiting the barrel to prevent some of the issues with giving your position away.

Tracers are fun to shoot at night but are definitely a fire hazard in dry conditions.
Wow! I sounded so smart there....thank you TILLER1K
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