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Old 08-03-2007, 11:29 AM   #81
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600's now a days are just as fast as 1000's.. ide reccommend atsleast an older 600 like an f2
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600's now a days are just as fast as 1000's.. ide reccommend atsleast an older 600 like an f2
my first REAL streetbike was an 87 ninja 600, would do 135 at the top of 6th
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600's now a days are just as fast as 1000's.. ide reccommend atsleast an older 600 like an f2
why? becuase people have evolved in the 10yrs since they were out now, and are somehow better riders automatically.

even the first sportbikes back in the mid 80's were over most riders heads, humans haven;t evolved that much.
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LOL yep that is true, SAD but true. Hope the most make it but with knowing what I know now, it only helped me mature more.

I hope most make it too and still enjoy riding in their older age as well. I have a few coworkers who ride like maniacs when they were younger, were lucky to still be alive but after some serious accident gave up riding.

I told them if they had taken it easier then, they'd still be enjoying it now because I can see their desire in their eyes when they talk about it and sigh.
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Give it up people. RacerX knows ALL, has seen it ALL, and assumes the worst about everyone. Getting him to see anyone elses point of view is pointless. It's like talking to a brick wall. He's too closed-minded and will be that way until he dies. Why bother arguing with him?

I am putting him on my ignore list b/c I'm sick of his negative posts and always assuming people haven't taken an MSF and don't know how to ride, like he's some MC or something.
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I hope most make it too and still enjoy riding in their older age as well. I have a few coworkers who ride like maniacs when they were younger, were lucky to still be alive but after some serious accident gave up riding.

I told them if they had taken it easier then, they'd still be enjoying it now because I can see their desire in their eyes when they talk about it and sigh.

WT heck?????!!!! So those people could turn into more Racer X and preaching how everyone should start something small and work their way up to bigger bikes and wear gears, and take MSF to save lives????????!!!!!
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The stats speak clearly against beginners on SS or 1K+ bikes. Because you are a lucky minority doesn't mean anyone else has to take on the risk. The risk is high.
No one ever said anyone else "has to" take on the risk of a higher CC bike. It's just ridiculous that everyone assumes anyone who starts on a bike larger than a 250 or 500 is going to drop it, wreck it, get hurt, die, etc. THAT is absolutely retarded and a total negative way of thinking. If that's how certain people choose to get through life, thinking this way, so be it.
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lol at ppl getting mad at racer x.... IBTL
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Also, stating that you bet that most people here in their 20's won't be around in 10 years is a total thing to say. Since you a moderator, I can't add you to my ignore list (how convenient), so this is my last comment towards you, you arrogant "holier-than-thou" "instructor".
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wait... 34 is old? Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Blue91, as you get older you learn things, and remember them. Fact is the average 18-25 year old rider getting a first bike has no business getting on one of the new 600cc SS or bigger. All you have to do is go back and search on posts about riders down and you will see a trend, and that is just on the site.

Obviously, everyone is not alike. Problem is, just about everyone in that age group (and older) looks at themselves and says "I am the one!" and in your heart you know it's the truth. (not true that you are the special one that can handle it, but true that we think that to ourselves)

I did some dumb dumb stuff in my younger days, and have the scars to prove it.

Racer X does safety training professionally, so he looks at it from his point of view, which is probably a lot closer to that of your parents, than your buddies that you ride with.

But as stats continue to prove out every day... all the care and preaching falls on deaf ears, 'cause what do we know?

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I started on a 600cc.

However, I'd say that for a first bike a 600cc is too much. Even a Ninja250 is gonna get you to 60 in 5 seconds. It's better to have something that will forgive you for mistakes that you'll make.
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I started on a 600cc.

However, I'd say that for a first bike a 600cc is too much. Even a Ninja250 is gonna get you to 60 in 5 seconds. It's better to have something that will forgive you for mistakes that you'll make.
Yeah, there are plenty of people who start on big bikes, some make it, some don't. It's always circumstantial, and to lump everyone together is naive. I say its circumstantial because, some folks come from dirt riding to street. There is a significant cross over there, but some things do transfer over. For those who have not been riding dirt or the like, first, and want to jump on a big bike, THAT is not always a good move. But it still comes down to how much sense the rider has. Just because you have all the power in the world, doesn't mean you have to use it.
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Obviously, everyone is not alike.

Racer X does safety training professionally, so he looks at it from his point of view, which is probably a lot closer to that of your parents, than your buddies that you ride with.

But as stats continue to prove out every day... all the care and preaching falls on deaf ears, 'cause what do we know?

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Just because you have all the power in the world, doesn't mean you have to use it.

What about 'accidentally' using it? Giving throttle, bike shoots forward and body gets thrown back, voila, you just go faster.

You have no idea of how many folks I heard who got on a bike and twisted the throttle only to be shot across the street into a ditch. I just heard another story this week from my insurance adjuster.

It is not how you control it but how you act when it gets out of control.

SS bikes are the thoroughbreds of the motorcycle world.

When people ask me about wanting to start riding horses, I don't tell them to go to the track and get a racehorse. No; they are put on older, calmer, nicer horses. Until they learn the balance and basics and have some experience, they don't even want to get on a hotblooded Thoroughbred. Trust me, my horse can be very calm when just walked around but by gosh, when he's got ants in the pants, you better watch out.
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What about 'accidentally' using it? Giving throttle, bike shoots forward and body gets thrown back, voila, you just go faster.

You have no idea of how many folks I heard who got on a bike and twisted the throttle only to be shot across the street into a ditch. I just heard another story this week from my insurance adjuster.

It is not how you control it but how you act when it gets out of control.

SS bikes are the thoroughbreds of the motorcycle world.

When people ask me about wanting to start riding horses, I don't tell them to go to the track and get a racehorse. No; they are put on older, calmer, nicer horses. Until they learn the balance and basics and have some experience, they don't even want to get on a hotblooded Thoroughbred. Trust me, my horse can be very calm when just walked around but by gosh, when he's got ants in the pants, you better watch out.
How do you compare a horse to a bike?
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You don't want me to ride an essay now on how they compare but take it as in learning anything new in general and temperment wise. :icon_bigg
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"they are put on older, calmer, nicer horses"

I think she was referring to RacerX
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