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Old 08-03-2007, 10:26 AM   #61
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another reason for what? why you shouldnt even post here? your a douche bag, all you ever ask is MSF, then you critisize if they say no
boring, can you do any better then name calling?

lost track of the orig. ? already, here it is again, what makes a 600SS a good beginner bike.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:31 AM   #63
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naw just young, can't keep to the issues but sure can name call like a son-of-a-!@#$. thats how they make their point, and "win the argument".
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boring, can you do any better then name calling?

lost track of the orig. ? already, here it is again, what makes a 600SS a good beginner bike.
It is light weight and has enough power to pass and it save gas too.
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enough power, had a 250, took my fat to 100+
inst. buddy of mine, just bought 1 this yr, been riding 40+yrs, has 2 -1200's in the garage, prolly 6'-3" and easily 300+lbs. put 9000mi on his lil ninja 250 this yr.

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lost track of the orig. ? already, here it is again, what makes a 600SS a good beginner bike.
because they look cool and i want one...
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there's no definitive mileage or experience, you can have thousands and thousands of miles and still be a poor rider.

the fact that you had lotsa prior experience esp. on dirt which is really the best training gounds. most peeps aren't that lucky.
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Everyone is different, so far as what they can handle. But if you do some research and talk to just about any professional rider or motorcycle professional, they will tell you almost to the last one, that your FIRST bike shouldn't be a SS600 or anything bigger.

If you have ridden dirt bikes or something long enough to be reasonably proficient, then obviously it isn't your first bike.

My take on experience versus newb/noob is when you get to the point you are comfortable with the bike you are on, can take it pretty much to it's limits on the track (or off, different thread), and have had some sort of training, be it MSF or track days.

If you still scare yourself often or get in positions where you are not 100% sure how to handle, then you are in the newb range.... IMHO

Miles have nothing to do with it.
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...... but maturity also helps. Considering I am 34, and would have died on any bike when I was in my teens and twentys, thank I never owned a bike then.

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This pretty much sums up why smaller bikes are recommended for new/young riders.

The flip side is the large numbers of older people, 50+, that decide to get that Harley now that they can afford it, and never get past the end of the driveway. You just have to know your limitations, and let the ego and peer pressure slide...
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there's no definitive mileage or experience, you can have thousands and thousands of miles and still be a poor rider.

the fact that you had lotsa prior experience esp. on dirt which is really the best training gounds. most peeps aren't that lucky.
To me, experience means that you have seen a fair share of accidents whether it involves you or not and you started riding defensively and responsibly. Meaning knowing where you are at and ride accordingly. If you are on the street, obey traffic laws, road condition, etc, etc... If you are on the track, to the walls, baby.
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I had a 450cc back in the 80's and that thing couldn't get past 90 without violently headshakes.
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experience doesnt mean age all the time. it can also mean the persons outlook in life.

i would trust a older person with responsibilities like a house, job, serious girl, etc. and less than 6 months experience over someone that has ridden for 2 years only because their other friends are doing it.
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I say get the fastest bike on the market as soon as you know you want a bike, even if you have never ridden before. Then spend big bucks putting exhaust, neon lights, undertails, and whatever else ebay sells on it. next buy the most expensive leathers, boots, gloves, and helmet. Now you have all the requesite gear to be the ultimate poser. Just as well...because when your boys go to scrape your off of the tarmac you will not only be stylin'...but I'll be able to pick up some tasty bits off of the classified section of this web site. you have my thanks in advance.
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34, dang old timer, lol. now realize who's mostly posting on this site, 18-25 y.o.'s what are they riding sportbikes. so what are there chances? not very high. unlike you i never rode bikes till i was early 30's. if i had a bike at 20ish i woulda been dead too. now look at these posters. what are the odds they'll be here 10 yrs from now. SLIM.
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34, dang old timer, lol. now realize who's mostly posting on this site, 18-25 y.o.'s what are they riding sportbikes. so what are there chances? not very high. unlike you i never rode bikes till i was early 30's. if i had a bike at 20ish i woulda been dead too. now look at these posters. what are the odds they'll be here 10 yrs from now. SLIM.
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34, dang old timer, lol. now realize who's mostly posting on this site, 18-25 y.o.'s what are they riding sportbikes. so what are there chances? not very high. unlike you i never rode bikes till i was early 30's. if i had a bike at 20ish i woulda been dead too. now look at these posters. what are the odds they'll be here 10 yrs from now. SLIM.
24 yr old with a busa here... been riding dirt since i was 5 and street since 15. hopefully i'll be here 10 years from now, i ride very carefully and rarely speed, i don't like tickets
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