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Old 08-02-2007, 02:35 PM   #101
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So anyone who shows interest in their race is racist?
If this is the case, then a few of us don't know what racism really is.

As defined by most definitions, racism is the BELIEF that there are inherent differences among the races that usually involve the idea that one's own race is SUPERIOR and has the right to rule others, hatred or intolerance of another race or other races is also included in this definition.

Based on that I'VE NEVER IN LIFE HEARD SHARPTON OR JACKSON state that blacks are the superior race to all others, furthermore their ability to call to action against situations that further lead to the demise of the african american community is far from an example of being racist more than it is a stand AGAINT racism directed towards THEIR COMMUNITY.
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Not in my book if you can use the same fair objections. These guys don't seem to do that. They pull the race card at every chance. They do more to drive a wedge between races than help. They want handouts not hard work.
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Sharpton, Jackson, Quanlx(sp), etc....
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If this is the case, then a few of us don't know what racism really is.

As defined by most definitions, racism is the BELIEF that there are inherent differences among the races that usually involve the idea that one's own race is SUPERIOR and has the right to rule others, hatred or intolerance of another race or other races is also included in this definition.

Based on that I'VE NEVER IN LIFE HEARD SHARPTON OR JACKSON state that blacks are the superior race to all others, furthermore their ability to call to action against situations that further lead to the demise of the african american community is far from an example of being racist more than it is a stand AGAINT racism directed towards THEIR COMMUNITY.
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I will admit, that at times, sharpton has come across as a bit (I don't know if I can say racist but...) biased and unclear in his comments. His actions and words don't always seem to coincide.
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If this is the case, then a few of us don't know what racism really is.

As defined by most definitions, racism is the BELIEF that there are inherent differences among the races that usually involve the idea that one's own race is SUPERIOR and has the right to rule others, hatred or intolerance of another race or other races is also included in this definition.

Based on that I'VE NEVER IN LIFE HEARD SHARPTON OR JACKSON state that blacks are the superior race to all others, furthermore their ability to call to action against situations that further lead to the demise of the african american community is far from an example of being racist more than it is a stand AGAINT racism directed towards THEIR COMMUNITY.
Thank you. I really didn't think it was necessary to define exactly what racism was but I see it may very well be necessary. You had to have laughed when you saw the attempt at a comparison between David Duke n Al Sharpton...I know I busted out laughing...most ridiculous shyt I've heard on here n a while, n thas a nearly daily occurance
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If this is the case, then a few of us don't know what racism really is.

As defined by most definitions, racism is the BELIEF that there are inherent differences among the races that usually involve the idea that one's own race is SUPERIOR and has the right to rule others, hatred or intolerance of another race or other races is also included in this definition.

Based on that I'VE NEVER IN LIFE HEARD SHARPTON OR JACKSON state that blacks are the superior race to all others, furthermore their ability to call to action against situations that further lead to the demise of the african american community is far from an example of being racist more than it is a stand AGAINT racism directed towards THEIR COMMUNITY.

They're not going to come out and say that. Nobody in their right mind would. They're simply exploiting tense racial relations for their own benefit. None of it's done for the good of the country or a community. That's my problem with them. If you're going to fight racism then let's not pretend that it's only perpetrated against one race of people. Let's fight it across the board.
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Not in my book if you can use the same fair objections. These guys don't seem to do that. They pull the race card at every chance. They do more to drive a wedge between races than help. They want handouts not hard work.

BECAUSE THEY ARE LEADERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY. They are there to "confront" the racism DIRECT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I don't always agree with them, but they are what we have until youth like myself step up to take there places and continue to lead us in the right direction. Let us all remember that Jackson was a close friend as well as follower of the Nobel Peace Prize WINNER DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR, WHO WAS NEER REFERRED TO AS A RACIST. I say that to prove he continues to fight the SAME fight DR. KING DID!
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Sharpton, Jackson, Quanlx(sp), etc....
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BECAUSE THEY ARE LEADERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY. They are there to "confront" the racism DIRECT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I don't always agree with them, but they are what we have until youth like myself step up to take there places and continue to lead us in the right direction. Let us all remember that Jackson was a close friend as well as follower of the Nobel Peace Prize WINNER DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR, WHO WAS NEER REFERRED TO AS A RACIST. I say that to prove he continues to fight the SAME fight DR. KING DID!
Dr King was a leader. He fought for Civil Rights for ALL people ... not just for his own profit. Let's not even put him and these nutbags in the same conversation, please.
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BECAUSE THEY ARE LEADERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY. They are there to "confront" the racism DIRECT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I don't always agree with them, but they are what we have until youth like myself step up to take there places and continue to lead us in the right direction. Let us all remember that Jackson was a close friend as well as follower of the Nobel Peace Prize WINNER DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR, WHO WAS NEER REFERRED TO AS A RACIST. I say that to prove he continues to fight the SAME fight DR. KING DID!
It's ok to be biased. If the "white people" even thought of themselves as a seperate community without including other races as you refer, it would create a whole other uproar with these type of so called leaders. But it's ok when they do it.
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I think i've mentioned this in past threads about these 2, but back in April of '06 when the Louisiana Gov't was stripping the relocated citizens of New Orleans their right to vote, but not adding satelitte poles in different cities or offer absentee ballots for the city election, Sharpton and Jackson led a march in New Orleans to speak out against this, other people such as John Legend, Bill Cosby, and other leaders in our community were present

I MARCHED in the front RIGHT NEXT TO THEM AND RAY NAGIN from start to finish of this cause, and when i was interviewed by a BET correspondent, about why i was there, the headline to my clip was "Young leaders of tomorrow". I say this to say, there is ALWAYS something in our community that HAVE to be spoken out against so that we are treated fairly. Since the issue doesn't necesarily affect u, u deem it as "pulling the race card" but it's not about pulling a card it's about equal and fair opportunities, and we are the younger generations OF ALL COMMUNITIES should prepare to accept and continue that leadership role, b/c there is ALWAYS room out there for injustice against the inferior to be had.
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Dr King was a leader. He fought for Civil Rights for ALL people ... not just for his own profit. Let's not even put him and these nutbags in the same conversation, please.


Again I say the NUTBAG Jackson was side by side with Dr King thru that fight, honey he's even in the notorious pic pointing out the shot that killed Dr. King, so don't for a second forget WHO TAUGHT HIM THE FIGHT. Sharpton is on one page but Jackson has the background to put him on another.
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I think i've mentioned this in past threads about these 2, but back in April of '06 when the Louisiana Gov't was stripping the relocated citizens of New Orleans their right to vote, but not adding satelitte poles in different cities or offer absentee ballots for the city election, Sharpton and Jackson led a march in New Orleans to speak out against this, other people such as John Legend, Bill Cosby, and other leaders in our community were present

I MARCHED in the front RIGHT NEXT TO THEM AND RAY NAGIN from start to finish of this cause, and when i was interviewed by a BET correspondent, about why i was there, the headline to my clip was "Young leaders of tomorrow". I say this to say, there is ALWAYS something in our community that HAVE to be spoken out against so that we are treated fairly. Since the issue doesn't necesarily affect u, u deem it as "pulling the race card" but it's not about pulling a card it's about equal and fair opportunities, and we are the younger generations OF ALL COMMUNITIES should prepare to accept and continue that leadership role, b/c there is ALWAYS room out there for injustice against the inferior to be had.
Are you refering to the ones who won't go back without handouts or the ones who want to work to rebuild.
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I think i've mentioned this in past threads about these 2, but back in April of '06 when the Louisiana Gov't was stripping the relocated citizens of New Orleans their right to vote, but not adding satelitte poles in different cities or offer absentee ballots for the city election, Sharpton and Jackson led a march in New Orleans to speak out against this, other people such as John Legend, Bill Cosby, and other leaders in our community were present

I MARCHED in the front RIGHT NEXT TO THEM AND RAY NAGIN from start to finish of this cause, and when i was interviewed by a BET correspondent, about why i was there, the headline to my clip was "Young leaders of tomorrow". I say this to say, there is ALWAYS something in our community that HAVE to be spoken out against so that we are treated fairly. Since the issue doesn't necesarily affect u, u deem it as "pulling the race card" but it's not about pulling a card it's about equal and fair opportunities, and we are the younger generations OF ALL COMMUNITIES should prepare to accept and continue that leadership role, b/c there is ALWAYS room out there for injustice against the inferior to be had.
So the "relocated citizens" were only black? There were NO other races relocated?????
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Again I say the NUTBAG Jackson was side by side with Dr King thru that fight, honey he's even in the notorious pic pointing out the shot that killed Dr. King, so don't for a second forget WHO TAUGHT HIM THE FIGHT. Sharpton is on one page but Jackson has the background to put him on another.
That was 40 years ago. You really think they have the same agenda that he did 40 years ago? A lot has changed since then.
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It's ok to be biased. If the "white people" even thought of themselves as a seperate community without including other races as you refer, it would create a whole other uproar with these type of so called leaders. But it's ok when they do it.
What are u talking about, the government lists us as separate communities/races anyway. Have u ever filled out an application other than one for a visa, that listed american, british, canadian, othern than black, white, asian.

It's not about being biased WE THE BLACK COMMUNITY have ALWAYS BEEN TREATED INFERIORLY as opposed to the WHITE COMMUNTIY, so we do need leadership to support the removal of this labeling and help us achieve a level of EQUALITY with the white community.

Lest's also not forget that leadership in our communities are also there to ignite the community ITSELF to better IT'S SELF. Sounds to me u might be a little jealous that we have so called leaders.
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So the "relocated citizens" were only black? There were NO other races relocated?????

Not at all and that's the point the fought for the citizens not just the black ones, BUT THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES TO FIGHT FOR THAT CAUSE.
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It's not about being biased WE THE BLACK COMMUNITY have ALWAYS BEEN TREATED INFERIORLY as opposed to the WHITE COMMUNTIY, so we do need leadership to support the removal of this labeling and help us achieve a level of EQUALITY with the white community.

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What are u talking about, the government lists us as separate communities/races anyway. Have u ever filled out an application other than one for a visa, that listed american, british, canadian, othern than black, white, asian.

It's not about being biased WE THE BLACK COMMUNITY have ALWAYS BEEN TREATED INFERIORLY as opposed to the WHITE COMMUNTIY, so we do need leadership to support the removal of this labeling and help us achieve a level of EQUALITY with the white community.

Lest's also not forget that leadership in our communities are also there to ignite the community ITSELF to better IT'S SELF. Sounds to me u might be a little jealous that we have so called leaders.

They do that for statistical purposes.

What leads you to believe that there's no equal opportunity in this country?
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