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Old 07-16-2016, 11:19 PM   #1
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Need opinions

Being a vet, I have the GI Bill as well as the Hazelwood Act. I've decided to go to school full time come Spring, but haven't decided what for yet. I was thinking about business management (how cliche), because I'd like to open my own martial arts academy in the future and there are a lot of things I don't feel confident in yet to do so.

However, I've been considering utilizing some time to get some motorcycle mechanic education under my belt so I can do all the basic upkeep of my bike as well as have a project bike (perhaps a bobber or something).

Combined, the GI Bill and Hazelwood is enough to do both. I just don't know if I should look into something like UTI or go elsewhere. Obviously, I'm learning as much as I can now with what resources are available to me. Aside from that, what are some of everyone's recommendations/experiences?
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I did IT for the Army and got decent amount of certifications. This wouldn't be for a career. I've heard the job market is bleak at best for new motorcycle mechanics. It would just be for the sake of learning for personal use. I had just heard mixed reviews of the quality of education at UTI.
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Don't waste the bill on UTI if you'll never go past hobby. if you want hobby knowledge buy a trashed $500 bike and get the manuals to tear down and build up if you screw up you're out $500 and not $40K of your GI Bill.
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Don't waste the bill on UTI if you'll never go past hobby. if you want hobby knowledge buy a trashed $500 bike and get the manuals to tear down and build up if you screw up you're out $500 and not $40K of your GI Bill.
Fair enough. Can you recommend any basic maintenance courses around Houston?
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Business management and Accounting. With an accounting degree, you can always get a job and you'll also be able to do your own books.
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School is overrated if you only plan on a mediocre trade.
Martial Arts or Mechanic.
Business management is really just "math" ...you must make more than you spend.

If you plan for higher education consider something like LAW.

A Martial Arts school is simple to open and inexpensive too.
You really don't need anything but a space to start. A Reputation wouldn't hurt though.

But as a motorcycle mechanic the opening cost would be more expensive, special tools and generally a pretty high overhead.

Neither would need a degree of any sort.

To be a small business owner is the ultimate. I wish you luck.

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go to school full time and find a shop to push brooms at. buy a cheap bike and do your own maintenance like whats already been mentioned. I am sure if you developed a good relationship with your shop they would let you borrow specialized tools that you might not own yet.

dont waste your benefits on something like mmi/uti. your goals may change later on
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School is overrated if you only plan on a mediocre trade.
Martial Arts or Mechanic.
Business management is really just "math" ...you must make more than you spend.

If you plan for higher education consider something like LAW

A Martial Arts school is simple to open and inexpensive too.
You really don't need anything but a space to start. A Reputation wouldn't hurt though.

But as a motorcycle mechanic the opening cost would be more expensive, special tools and generally a pretty high overhead.

Neither would need a degree of any sort.

To be a small business owner is the ultimate. I wish you luck.

?Why martial arts?
All good points. Thanks! And martial arts/self protection has always been a huge part of my life. Teaching others has always been where I'm most comfortable. I'm passionate about self reliance, preparation, fitness, discipline, and camaraderie.
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go to school full time and find a shop to push brooms at. buy a cheap bike and do your own maintenance like whats already been mentioned. I am sure if you developed a good relationship with your shop they would let you borrow specialized tools that you might not own yet.

dont waste your benefits on something like mmi/uti. your goals may change later on
I actually hinted at apprenticing for my mechanic and he didn't say yes, but he didn't say no. Lol
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Any time a UTI student comes in asking for work we just file away an application, because typically UTI just sends UnTrained Idiots. 😁

Your best bet is to do like suggested above, be a porter somewhere. I think Shane Stubbs is looking for a porter at Ks, and honestly, I can't think of anyone better to learn from.
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To add to that, The dealer I worked at back home had a porter, real nice guy. Cleaned bikes, swept the floors and uncrated the new bikes. After a few years I walked in the back to check on my GSXR recall and saw him doing it and asked when they started letting him wrench, found out he was actually a UTI/MMU grad this whole time.
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To add to that, The dealer I worked at back home had a porter, real nice guy. Cleaned bikes, swept the floors and uncrated the new bikes. After a few years I walked in the back to check on my GSXR recall and saw him doing it and asked when they started letting him wrench, found out he was actually a UTI/MMU grad this whole time.
Geez. Yeah, this is pretty much the consensus I've read about UTI grads. Just wanted opinions from everyone here. Thanks!
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if you want to go to school, especially a university ask yourself "what would I do with that degree"

Look at the job markets for a job you think you may enjoy. Do find jobs? If not, and you seek eventual employment maybe keep looking.

Far to many people get degrees in that either almost no employers give a F about, or get a degree in something they don't really care about.

Ie,don't bother with an accounting degree if you don't like numbers and like that and don't waste you time with a degree in under water basket weaving if you think you want to make any money

finally, be prepared to be flexible

My suggestion is to first decide are you seeking a BA or BS. A bachelors of science requires more math & science usually. Then look at a college or university you think you would want to get that degree from. Find the degree plan. Now, take the core classes that are available at HCC and go there for the core. It will save you a ton of money and your C- in calculus won't transfer to your university GPA.

Finish at the university.

If you can't decide, choose Geology it has a little bit of everything and field trips.
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Once again, I appreciate the advice. I was more or less wondering about the quality of education at UTI for personal use, not career wise. But I really do appreciate all the advice from everyone. Career wise, I'm definitely wanting to open up my own martial arts school. I just figured that, since I have enough to get a business related degree and have some left over, I would look into stuff to help grow me personally. that was pretty much it. I think I'm definitely going to look into being a porter once I get back in school come spring. That seems like the best route to take so far.
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Martial Arts school isn't as easy as it sounds. When you finally decide to open the school think about something like this.
Offer a life time membership to 12 people at the cost of your overhead-mainly rent.
This will tie you over for the first year(which is the hardest). This will typically be about the same price as 1 years tuition. This will give you a year to get the enrollment up to sustain the business.
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Those Martial arts schools seem like a cash cow with most of the cost being the service aspect of it.

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Martial Arts school isn't as easy as it sounds. When you finally decide to open the school think about something like this.
Offer a life time membership to 12 people at the cost of your overhead-mainly rent.
This will tie you over for the first year(which is the hardest). This will typically be about the same price as 1 years tuition. This will give you a year to get the enrollment up to sustain the business.
That's actually not a bad idea.

I've been helping teach a couple nights a week at Team Tooke out in Cypress. They were actually talking about having me do an apprenticeship/Instructor certification through them. I'm really fond of how they run the academy, and they have been pretty successful, so I'm thinking about doing it.
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And every time a kid moves up a belt, more $$ in your pocket
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