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Old 06-13-2016, 04:25 PM   #1
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So this happened today...clutch issue.

Was riding aggressive with another rider when suddenly I lost power. Even in gear, I could twist the throttle and bike just revved up. I managed to pull over and adjust the clutch cable all the way out and got enough bite to make it home. I'm going to go outside and reroute the clutch cable right now because of my aftermarket bars takes some length off the original cable, going to see if I can give it a new route to gain some slack, maybe it's not fully engaging when releasing the lever...although it feels like it does.

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Took the clutch cover off and found two broken plates.
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Old 06-13-2016, 06:14 PM   #4
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Wow. That's pretty messed up.
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I'm going on a guess you like wheelies , and use the clutch to get it up at higher speeds
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I'm going on a guess you like wheelies , and use the clutch to get it up at higher speeds
3rd gear, 60-70mph...yes.
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You will continue to break plates then . Option 1 ride it out off throttle from 1st ,
option 2 stop wheelies , option 3 regear bike so clutch is not needed at higher speeds .
Option 3 side effect = top speed loss / mpg goes way down
option 4 buy a higher hp/tq bike that does not need clutch up wheelies
Last keep doing it / breaking plates , and eventually one of the broken clutch parts will grenade the motor for you .
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You will continue to break plates then . Option 1 ride it out off throttle from 1st ,
option 2 stop wheelies , option 3 regear bike so clutch is not needed at higher speeds .
Option 3 side effect = top speed loss / mpg goes way down
option 4 buy a higher hp/tq bike that does not need clutch up wheelies
Last keep doing it / breaking plates , and eventually one of the broken clutch parts will grenade the motor for you .
I like option 1, I'm still learning though, so it's going to most likely be option 5.
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It's an easy DIY fix. Get a manual. It's pretty straight forward. Go ahead and order frictions and steels. Oem
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:23 AM   #10
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It's an easy DIY fix. Get a manual. It's pretty straight forward. Go ahead and order frictions and steels. Oem
Only ordered frictions, steels seem fine. I'll probably bust another friction before I bust a steel.

Ordered these.
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why half it? You can most likely scrub them down but why not start fresh?
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OEM are almost always the best . 2nd all your steels are warped from heat / clutch up wheelies . This does affect how well the bike shifts , and you will also wear out the new frictions faster with worn /warped steels .
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Fine you munchers. Even though my steels seem fine and sit flat on the counter demonstrating to me no obvious warping, I went ahead and ordered a new Yamaha OEM clutch kit with all the goodies. I don't just have money to blow, so if I don't have to replace something, I won't, but you guys got to me. Plus that was prime, so I'd be back on the road by tomorrow. Oh well, OEM on order, get it next week. You happy now?

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Fine you munchers. Even though my steels seem fine and sit flat on the counter demonstrating to me no obvious warping, I went ahead and ordered a new Yamaha OEM clutch kit with all the goodies. I don't just have money to blow, so if I don't have to replace something, I won't, but you guys got to me. Plus that was prime, so I'd be back on the road by tomorrow. Oh well, OEM on order, get it next week. You happy now?

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What a attitude towards people who are legitimately trying to help you out.
Don't get too hurt, it's just a bit of sarcasm. And it should make them feel good knowing that I did "the right thing". lol. I'll feel better knowing it's a complete kit. Just didn't want to spend the extra cash and wait the extra week, also thought my original plates were at least as good as OEM. Now, I need to get back in there and inspect my basket because I've read quite a few post from other owners who found entire bits of the basket missing. I didn't see any cracks, I did check for that, but I better double check for entire parts of it missing that I didn't notice. If I had the cash, I'd go with a Barnett kit. I read good things.

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I wouldnt and have never bought anything but OEM. Last last two bikes did almost nothing but 1/4 mile passes and the OEM held
up like a champ. 500+ passes on OEM on the Busa. Most on nitrous.
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You will continue to break plates then . Option 1 ride it out off throttle from 1st ,
option 2 stop wheelies , option 3 regear bike so clutch is not needed at higher speeds .
Option 3 side effect = top speed loss / mpg goes way down
option 4 buy a higher hp/tq bike that does not need clutch up wheelies
Last keep doing it / breaking plates , and eventually one of the broken clutch parts will grenade the motor for you .
Is this about FZ09's or a general statement?

I only clutch up wheelies and have done so on every single bike I have owned and have never had a clutch issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I've never heard of anyone breaking clutch plates from wheelies.
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Is this about FZ09's or a general statement?

I only clutch up wheelies and have done so on every single bike I have owned and have never had a clutch issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I've never heard of anyone breaking clutch plates from wheelies.
I think it's a safe statement to make that it applies to all bike as a general rule, clutch-ups hurt the clutch. Surely popping the clutch and revving the engine is not good for it. As far as FZ09s go, from my reading online, they have a pretty clutch, which is why I didn't buy OEM to replace it, but then was convinced otherwise that I should not go aftermarket. I'm sure the level of wear and tear on the clutch discs also has a lot to do with technique. This bike is my first bike to start doing wheelies, I up a lot. At 70mph, popping up the front wheel while sitting down is a bit of an art of popping clutch, revving and pulling the handlebars at the same time. I get out of sync a lot. I'll get smoother as time goes on. Hopefully this buys me another 10K miles, next clutch will be a Barnett kevlar kit. I hear good things.
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