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Old 05-11-2016, 04:25 PM   #41
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2min lap @TWS (Texas World Speedway) is well inside ridesmart level 3 limits! If memory servers 2:10 is the ceiling, right?

Amen on doing this for fun and going home in one piece..
I was NOT doing 2:00min lap times this past Saturday. After you asked, I picked one lap in the first video I posted. It was a 2:15 lap time.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:42 PM   #42
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If you're in level 2 and have a big bike, try an LSTD track day on a Friday in the B group, you'll get passed on the inside all day long by the minis and 300s, very skilled riders/racers but not allowed in expert level due to closing speeds.

Scary at first but then you get used to it and I can't speak for others but it's made me a much better rider.

The video below shows what I'm talking about, I got passed on the inside and outside, simultaneously, by a couple of 250s. Awesome.

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Old 05-11-2016, 06:56 PM   #43
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Classic, but for the ultimate on-track douchebaggery check this out:



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Wow... I can't even.... Your picture is so clear. What camera do you use? Almost no shaking, clear as day. Hands down best picture.

And I have no idea what that guy was doing. Scraping toe? Trying out the motogp foot out before corner? He almost lost it a couple times scraping toe.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:16 PM   #44
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Yep, I'm one of those 250 riders
You going to lstd Cresson this weekend? I'll be providing plenty of inside passing bait
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:43 PM   #45
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Rossi came to a track day??!?!??
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looks like he may have pulled the front tire up without knowing it and had some bar in it when it came back down = tank slapper. He went to the gas hard on the exit.
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Old 05-16-2016, 04:05 PM   #48
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Since I'm bored here is the only other interesting thing I got on video from Saturday.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...b3TWVR-960.mp4

In the end not a big deal, but just witnessing this guy run off, then get in front of me abruptly going into turn 1 and then parking it into turn 3, had me nervous and a little annoyed... That's learning for me and him.

the joys of track days, still better than working.
That's me in the white Dainese suit and I didn't go off track that was another rider in another white suit. But if you have done trackdays before they preach about giving courtesy to the rider in front of you regardless if they are moving at your pace of slower. Its a track day not a race day.
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What do they say about going WOT in the straights and parking it in the corners??
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What do they say about going WOT in the straights and parking it in the corners??
Another thing that no one is talking about... the number of LV2 riders that don't attend classes...
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Another thing that no one is talking about... the number of LV2 riders that don't attend classes...
what did you just say?
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I see even more riders that go to the classes and never learn anything... Seems like the same people are in there every time. Why you no improve?!
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what did you just say?
Did you ever notice last minute "leg" out to show that you want to get out of the track (something that you should have done with you arm way before you are actually exiting) and when there is an emergency such as a RED flag how people just casually exit the track without any sense of urgency?
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I see even more riders that go to the classes and never learn anything... Seems like the same people are in there every time. Why you no improve?!
This me off to no end, especially when I was in L1. This is a "school", there are instructors that can teach you stuff, why do you not use them?? Why do you completely disregard the "rules" and can't stay anywhere near the line??? but you can go fast in a straight line
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All this is proof to me that the racing environment is much safer than trackdays. Skip taking your 600 or 1000 to the track when you haven't a clue. instead get a lightweight dedicated racebike and make a friday LSTD practice in street class to start.

Just watching those two short clips gave me chills about the boneheaded riding I just witnessed. Like the white leathers and blue wheel bike hitting the brakes in an acceleration zone after T2. Coulda been ugly.
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Also, firm believer that there is nothing a rider can do wrong to make a bike go into a tankslapper.

A tankslapper is a harmonic vibration of the bike / suspension / tires that builds on itself until a change is made or the bike goes out of control. Rider input has nothing to do with it, up to the point the rider could drastically change throttle / brake / body position to attempt to control it. Not very likely they will be able to tho.

Steering dampers for the win. And proper tire pressures and sizes. And suspension set up by someone knowledgeable...not redone or anything, just properly set up by a suspension guy using factory available settings trackside.

Saying the rider did something only makes everyone nervous that their riding style will bring on a tankslapper. This is just not the case. It is a bike harmonics issue.
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Also, firm believer that there is nothing a rider can do wrong to make a bike go into a tankslapper.

A tankslapper is a harmonic vibration of the bike / suspension / tires that builds on itself until a change is made or the bike goes out of control. Rider input has nothing to do with it, up to the point the rider could drastically change throttle / brake / body position to attempt to control it. Not very likely they will be able to tho.

Steering dampers for the win. And proper tire pressures and sizes. And suspension set up by someone knowledgeable...not redone or anything, just properly set up by a suspension guy using factory available settings trackside.

Saying the rider did something only makes everyone nervous that their riding style will bring on a tankslapper. This is just not the case. It is a bike harmonics issue.
I disagree! Yes, a good damper is a must. Hanging on to the bars to stay on the bike causes it most of the time. I learned the hard way on wheelie hill, I put a damper on and learned to be light on the bars on one of the most well known tank slapping bikes out there. It hasn't been an issue anymore.
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That's me in the white Dainese suit and I didn't go off track that was another rider in another white suit. But if you have done trackdays before they preach about giving courtesy to the rider in front of you regardless if they are moving at your pace of slower. Its a track day not a race day.
In the video your lines and speed were a little off and a little unpredictable. Yeah technically you didn't leave the track in the esses, but it was close.

Courtesy? How about not cutting in front and taking someones line when coming down the straight and into turn 1 when were going 100mph+. Like you said it's not a race day. What was the point of that move? What about the 6 ft rule, you cut in between me and the dude on the green Kawi?

I think you were getting a little tired or distracted. It happens to all of us at one time or another.

Most importantly, nothing big happened, neither one of us fell. all water under the bridge now. I'm not mad and neither should you See you next time.
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next time he should just concentrate on what he is doing wrong in the corners instead of worrying about the guys around him and trying to keep up/pass on the straights.
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...believer that there is nothing a rider can do wrong to make a bike go into a tank slapper ...

A tankslapper is a harmonic vibration of the bike / suspension / tires that builds on itself until a change is made or the bike goes out of control. Rider input has nothing to do with it, up to the point the rider could drastically change throttle / brake / body position to attempt to control it ...



Saying the rider did something only makes everyone nervous This is just not the case. It is a bike harmonics issue ...
..... bump bump > ANXIETY >DEATH GRIP ON BARS > OVERCORRECTION = ... takes a hard ride to B KING ...MSF
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