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Old 05-10-2016, 02:57 PM   #21
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I'll echo Umayr, might have been too little trail on the setup, tends to make a bike head shake prone. or a combination of short wheel base with too little trail. I wonder if he had a steering damper, probably would have prevented that.

That was pretty nasty, how was the rider? I had the rear pre-load raised at MSRH round and my bike was head shaking like crazy on front straight, steering damper did it's job.
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Old 05-10-2016, 04:40 PM   #22
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I passed by right when the rider was picking up his bike. He looked OK.
There was a bunch a nasty inside passing and riders in big bikes getting but hurt of being passed by minis...
Saturday was no different from Sunday.
As matter fact on my first session of the day Sunday, this guy passed me on the inside coming in to T7 and spooked me but I thought for a moment that he might knew what he was doing until I came up to him on T8 because he was hesitating and by T9 I was ready to pass him back when he washed out in front of me and my only option was to ride the grass to do not run him over...
All this because I had passed him a lap before...
the guy between T4 and T5 hurt his foot bad (Blair said was a highside and he showed us pics of flying parts) just WOW!
How about the guy on the wheelie hill? Did he went wide coming out of T3 and end up on the grass?
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I passed by right when the rider was picking up his bike. He looked OK.
There was a bunch a nasty inside passing and riders in big bikes getting but hurt of being passed by minis...
Saturday was no different from Sunday.
As matter fact on my first session of the day Sunday, this guy passed me on the inside coming in to T7 and spooked me but I thought for a moment that he might knew what he was doing until I came up to him on T8 because he was hesitating and by T9 I was ready to pass him back when he washed out in front of me and my only option was to ride the grass to do not run him over...
All this because I had passed him a lap before...
the guy between T4 and T5 hurt his foot bad (Blair said was a highside and he showed us pics of flying parts) just WOW!
How about the guy on the wheelie hill? Did he went wide coming out of T3 and end up on the grass?
Check Blair's website Level 2- Set 5, scroll 2/3 of the way down for the crash sequence

http://hart-photography.com/photocar...79#page=thumbs
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:13 PM   #24
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Sunday was an odd day indeed. What do track days and golf have in common? Never a good idea to step in someone's line..

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I passed by right when the rider was picking up his bike. He looked OK.
There was a bunch a nasty inside passing and riders in big bikes getting but hurt of being passed by minis...
Saturday was no different from Sunday.
As matter fact on my first session of the day Sunday, this guy passed me on the inside coming in to T7 and spooked me but I thought for a moment that he might knew what he was doing until I came up to him on T8 because he was hesitating and by T9 I was ready to pass him back when he washed out in front of me and my only option was to ride the grass to do not run him over...
All this because I had passed him a lap before...
the guy between T4 and T5 hurt his foot bad (Blair said was a highside and he showed us pics of flying parts) just WOW!
How about the guy on the wheelie hill? Did he went wide coming out of T3 and end up on the grass?
I was inside passed on Saturday, but they were very courteous and executed very well. I think they let a LVL3 rider into our session to ride / follow his lvl2 buddy. No problem for me.

I thought Saturday went pretty well. Glad I picked Saturday over sunday.
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Sunday was an odd day indeed. What do track days and golf have in common? Never a good idea to step in someone's line..

cap0017 zps50sdfbb2

Uploading all my front/rear facing videos from level 2 to youtube, should be ready by this evening.
That screen shot beats my video.
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Since I'm bored here is the only other interesting thing I got on video from Saturday.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...b3TWVR-960.mp4

In the end not a big deal, but just witnessing this guy run off, then get in front of me abruptly going into turn 1 and then parking it into turn 3, had me nervous and a little annoyed... That's learning for me and him.

the joys of track days, still better than working.
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Since I'm bored here is the only other interesting thing I got on video from Saturday.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...b3TWVR-960.mp4

In the end not a big deal, but just witnessing this guy run off, then get in front of me abruptly going into turn 1 and then parking it into turn 3, had me nervous and a little annoyed... That's learning for me and him.

the joys of track days, still better than working.
Classic, but for the ultimate on-track douchebaggery check this out:

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I was inside passed on Saturday, but they were very courteous and executed very well. I think they let a LVL3 rider into our session to ride / follow his lvl2 buddy. No problem for me.

I thought Saturday went pretty well. Glad I picked Saturday over sunday.
I know the Racer with the new R1 "Scott" and he passed me on the inside of T5 "like a race move" and I had to talk to him about it. He said since he knew me he thought it was ok It spooked big time
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Putting my serious hat on for a second:

Are you talking about my pace / corner entry speed after the crash? If so, then you are correct, I'm going way too slow. Just saw a dude eat asphalt and there's a waving checkered flag.

Taking serious hat off.

My goal for 2017 is to set a new lap record at TWS (Texas World Speedway).
Nope, just a general observation. Just giving you some feedback and advice. Take it or leave. I may or may not know what I'm talking about or have taught other riders of your level a thing or two.
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Nope, just a general observation. Just giving you some feedback and advice. Take it or leave. I may or may not know what I'm talking about or have taught other riders of your level a thing or two.
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What was that? Never, has something that bad on the straight (even when I rode a faster bike). Glad you're OK after that crash.
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Here are Sunday level 2 sessions (2,3,4) rear and front. I was running middle of the pack (passed, got passed).

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I'm no expert but I thought your lines were spot on, hit every apex and got on the throttle early for a good drive out. That is not level 1 riding.. What lap times were you running?
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I'm no expert but I thought your lines were spot on, hit every apex and got on the throttle early for a good drive out. That is not level 1 riding.. What lap times were you running?
Thanks for the feedback. My lines are decent, with the exception of turn 1 & 2. I'll never get that turn combination correct. Doesn't matter anyways, after this summer as there will not be a TWS (Texas World Speedway) any more.

I thought I was a decent LVL2 rider. Maybe that's one's ego masking one's own ability. I don't know. I only got passed three or four times total on the four videos I took during the day. One of the guys that made the pass stick and started walking away, ended up eating asphalt. Most importantly I made it home safely to my wife and kid. I love the track and speed, but my perspective and desire sure has changed. I'll never be a Rossi or a Ty Howard or a Brandt Dillon and I'm fine with that.

I don't have a lap timer so I don't know my lap times. I haven't checked my lap times on the video time stamps either. Before kids, I know I used to be able to do 2:00min lap on my old 1994 YZF 750.

I'm out just having fun and de-stressing from work.

Again thanks for the feedback. See ya'll on the track in the fall. It's too hot for my fat to do track days in the summer.
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I know the Racer with the new R1 "Scott" and he passed me on the inside of T5 "like a race move" and I had to talk to him about it. He said since he knew me he thought it was ok It spooked big time
If you're in level 2 and have a big bike, try an LSTD track day on a Friday in the B group, you'll get passed on the inside all day long by the minis and 300s, very skilled riders/racers but not allowed in expert level due to closing speeds.

Scary at first but then you get used to it and I can't speak for others but it's made me a much better rider.

The video below shows what I'm talking about, I got passed on the inside and outside, simultaneously, by a couple of 250s. Awesome.

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Thanks for the feedback. My lines are decent, with the exception of turn 1 & 2. I'll never get that turn combination correct. Doesn't matter anyways, after this summer as there will not be a TWS (Texas World Speedway) any more.

I thought I was a decent LVL2 rider. Maybe that's one's ego masking one's own ability. I don't know. I only got passed three or four times total on the four videos I took during the day. One of the guys that made the pass stick and started walking away, ended up eating asphalt. Most importantly I made it home safely to my wife and kid. I love the track and speed, but my perspective and desire sure has changed. I'll never be a Rossi or a Ty Howard or a Brandt Dillon and I'm fine with that.

I don't have a lap timer so I don't know my lap times. I haven't checked my lap times on the video time stamps either. Before kids, I know I used to be able to do 2:00min lap on my old 1994 YZF 750.

I'm out just having fun and de-stressing from work.

Again thanks for the feedback. See ya'll on the track in the fall. It's too hot for my fat to do track days in the summer.
2min lap @TWS (Texas World Speedway) is well inside ridesmart level 3 limits! If memory servers 2:10 is the ceiling, right?

Amen on doing this for fun and going home in one piece..
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I don't have a lap timer so I don't know my lap times. I haven't checked my lap times on the video time stamps either. Before kids, I know I used to be able to do 2:00min lap on my old 1994 YZF 750.
That's level 3 times. 2:00 is pretty good at TWS (Texas World Speedway).

Another + for Friday trackays with LSTD. I've done few of those, and always seem to learn alot going with faster riders.
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