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Old 04-26-2016, 08:45 AM   #1
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Seriously considering trading my r1 for a 600. Seems 600 corner so much easier than a liter bike. Or is this just in my head. What could I do to lighten up the steering on an 02 r1? Maybe higher profile tire?
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:17 AM   #2
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When the '02 R1 came out, it felt like a 600 class bike...LOL...dry weight was only 384 lbs. Your 03 GSXR 600 was 360 lbs. dry weight. They should feel pretty similar. I had an 02 R1 back in the day and never thought the steering felt heavy. Back then, I raced a GSXR750 because it felt more stable. My R1 felt too squirrely on the track for me.
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Going from R1 to r6 is an upgrade.
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When the '02 R1 came out, it felt like a 600 class bike...LOL...dry weight was only 384 lbs. Your 03 GSXR 600 was 360 lbs. dry weight. They should feel pretty similar. I had an 02 R1 back in the day and never thought the steering felt heavy. Back then, I raced a GSXR750 because it felt more stable. My R1 felt too squirrely on the track for me.
Weight is only one aspect.

The rotating mass of a liter bike is much more pronounced when compared to a 600. Which keeps it from wanting to lean like a 600.
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Maybe just need more seat time
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Is this on the street or track?

Have you had the suspension adjusted for your weight?
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Well it is an old bike. Have you checked the steering bearings? Do you have a damper? Suspension set to your weight? Or have the suspension set for quicker tien in.

You could look into wheels. Or A 190/55 tire.
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Haven't got the suspension set up I know that will help a lot. New tires going on and forks getting serviced too so maybe that will freshen things up
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Weight is only one aspect.

The rotating mass of a liter bike is much more pronounced when compared to a 600. Which keeps it from wanting to lean like a 600.
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Pretty basic info here, but sometimes the simple things get forgotten, light tearing your engine apart before you check the kill switch-----

i.e. have you checked your tire pressure?
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i have a buddy who has been riding for over 7 years and he never ever uses his kill switch. i switched it off one time when he wasnt looking and for his life he couldnt figure out what was wrong and why his bike wouldnt start. i was just a laughing and decided to tell him i turn off the kiil switch. i still do it to this day but not its the first thing he checks when it doesnt start up..
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Actually....to be honest no I didn't check tire pressure recently. I'll do it as soon as I get back home along with checking the bearings
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Actually....to be honest no I didn't check tire pressure recently. I'll do it as soon as I get back home along with checking the bearings
Tire pressure should be checked at least weekly or after a big change in ambient temperature
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Drop the front and it'll turn in faster at the expense of stability.
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I walk up to strangers all the time and tell them they need air in there tires, it's really noticeable when the tire is wearing all up. They usually say I haven't checked tire pressure in three months, smh
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I checked the air when I got it about a month ago. But I guess just slacking. Still it felt the same then. But the tires are wore out and looked like its never took a corner so I'm hoping the new tires will help
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I walk up to strangers all the time and tell them they need air in there tires, it's really noticeable when the tire is wearing all up. They usually say I haven't checked tire pressure in three months, smh
I like to tell them - "Hey, you left your lights on."
They ALWAYS look back without fail.....

Normal street riding with lower front tire pressure makes my bike feel like it wants to fall into a corner as I approach, and makes me want to accelerate stronger to come out.
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On the first race of the year at MSRH, Brandon and Camacho were running 1:33's on the 600's and there was nothing left for the liter bikes on that battle for the first place. just saying...
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