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Old 04-13-2016, 09:19 AM   #1
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Aftermarket oil filter ban

Is this CVMA pulling the trigger too quickly? Any of you track guys ever have a problem with leaking oil filters? It doesn't mention brand.

Personally, I have had problems with dealer bought Ducati oil filters leaking, either at the seam or o-ring. I have never had a problem with K&N or any other type.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/.../#.Vw1EH8QRMgo

Chuckwalla Valley Motorcycle Association (CVMA) is banning the use of aftermarket oil filters during its 2016-2017 race series, which begins in September.

Today, CVMA Race Director Jay Tanner announced: "In light of the recent string of issues related to aftermarket oil filters, CVMA is highly recommending that you do not use ANY brand of aftermarket oil filter.

"New rule effective the first round of next season in September - no aftermarket oil filters, of any kind, will be allowed. This is for our riders' safety!"

CVMA racer Dustin Coyner told Roadracingworld.com that he suffered significant injuries in a crash caused by an O-ring failure on an aftermarket oil filter in November 2015.

The aftermarket oil filter on Kyle Wyman's Millennium Technologies/KWR Yamaha YZF-R1 MotoAmerica Superstock 1000 racebike suffered an O-ring failure during Race One April 9 at Circuit of The Americas, resulting in a large oil spill, two lengthy clean up delays, and a fire on Wyman's motorcycle.
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Old 04-13-2016, 11:11 AM   #2
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good thing that will never happen on an OEM. Now that none with have the safety wire nut on them there will be other issues.
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Another knee jerk reaction that will fix nothing.
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so sportbikes have issues with oil filters coming loose? I learn something new everyday!
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I do all my own maintenance and never had anything of this nature ever happen.
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I prefer K&N specifically because you can wire them
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I had the o-ring of a K&N leak, but I believe I tightened it too much.
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I remember that a guy got banged up pretty bad at TWS (Texas World Speedway), becasue of a K&N oil filter that came loose off another bike, and dumped oil on the track.
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Answer me this... does an oiled thread change torque settings?

My hands feel like, even with a torque wrench, you over torque threads when they're lubed.

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next you will have to have a tech there put the filter on
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Had a K&N blow the o-ring out from between the pan and filter. At least 2" of o-ring hanging down, and dumped all my oil on 45S.
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Had a K&N blow the o-ring out from between the pan and filter. At least 2" of o-ring hanging down, and dumped all my oil on 45S.
That usually happens when you don't lube the gasket before installation...
Maybe, maybe not. Stranger things have happened.
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That usually happens when you don't lube the gasket before installation...
Maybe, maybe not. Stranger things have happened.
I don't think I've ever forgotten to lube a gasket. I've even had filters halfway threaded and pulled them off just to double check.
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I've been using wix for quite some time. Never had one issue. Sometimes I lube the gasket, sometimes I dont.
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Related story now linked to the article above,

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...-r1-racebikes/

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Until further notice, MotoAmerica is placing a temporary ban on aftermarket oil filters for the 2015-16 Yamaha R1 (all models) pending investigation. As of today 4/14/16 all 2015-16 Yamaha R1 must use an OEM oil filter.

ELEMENT ASSY, OIL CL
5GH-13440-50-00

All teams should possess the correct tools and torque specifications to install oil filters and prevent the distortion of the gaskets. Filters must be safety wired.

Please contact technicaldirector@motoamerica.com with any questions.
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Seems like there are some reservations about K&N filters in general...

Is it a case of name recognition beign a curse and any issue going to be attached to the product name first, or are these concerns founded?

What is the expierence with OEM filters? Are they any less likely to be over tightened, or have failures by their design?

I doubt yamaha make oil filters themselves anyway, so one could aurgue there is no such thing as a truly OEM componet here...
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Used K&N for a long time. Never had a filter or o-ring failure in 40 years.
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K&N use to be a darn good product , but with time they are heading down hill .
Many issues over the years regarding their oil filters . Most are mexico made .
They usually have a higher PSI relief preasure than OEM .
FYI if you have warranty still left on a Suzuki , and motor issues found with K&N oil filter installed your most likely left without help or repairs by Suzuki .
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have a k&n air filter in my truck, but i've heard of multiple people having issues with their moto oil filters and seen a few in person. I would never have one on my bike.

You can safety wire any oil filter. It's required when you race.
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No racing org I know of allows you to safety wire filters through the built in nuts (like K&N has) I've also seen a K&N leak through the seam between the nut and filter housing.
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I had a o-ring blow out on one of the typical filters you get from cycle gear on track. Oiled up about 400 yards of the race line before i figured out why my right foot was warm and slick, and another 4000 yards of track (off the race line) trying to get the bike slowed down and into the grass.
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