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Old 04-04-2016, 02:45 PM   #21
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There were a lot less riders. A bunch of people went home and on top of that I didnt even hear any announcement for the last session I just saw people getting on the track and I got with the program.
I should I have came out for that!
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:36 PM   #22
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It was a level 3 rider that got life flighted.

The morning session #2 or #3 somebody in level 2 had an oil spill on turn 9. The life flight took a while and we were standing around at 4pm. They said if #2 and #1 get their last sessions, it would be only 10 minutes each if anything at all. At that point, a lot of us started packing up.
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:54 PM   #23
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It was a level 3 rider that got life flighted.

The morning session #2 or #3 somebody in level 2 had an oil spill on turn 9. The life flight took a while and we were standing around at 4pm. They said if #2 and #1 get their last sessions, it would be only 10 minutes each if anything at all. At that point, a lot of us started packing up.
It was a level 3 guy who went down and busted his engine case causing the oil spill. Level 2 had to wait for them to clean it up before our session started. They warned us of water on the track from the clean up, but one guy still went down in that very water spot. He broke his wrist.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:40 PM   #24
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:37 PM   #25
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Better safe than sorry, I guess

sucks that the decision is either risk death or $30k helicopter ride
Well the ride is only about $16,500.

If the EMT's think that your injuries need a trauma level of attention they are sending you to Memorial Hermann versus Angleton's facilities since that is where Angleton is going to send you - via air - and plus the Adam 11 guys don't like to drive to, or in, Houston... so your taking the flight.

A broken femur is big time so they made the right choice yesterday. In my case they were worried that I had a severed femoral artery and they made the right choice then as well. I support these people as they are doing what they think is best for the injured individual, if taking a insurance company covered ride is part of covering their I'm in favor of that too.

Most (maybe all) health insurance covers emergency transportation, including air ambulance service....you just have to argue a bit to get the bill paid. As long as you have insurance you should be covered.

We should all be grateful for the assistance all first responders provide us, especially when we are ripping the track.

I hope this guy has as good as a recovery as I did!
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:23 PM   #26
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Very well said! Hindsight is always 20/20, in the end the wrong decision by the EMTs could have gotten you both killed and from what I hear it sounds like you both are!
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:09 PM   #27
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EMT's trying to rid themselves of liability by calling Life Flight. Seems to be a regular occurrence at MSRH.

Thank for Obamacare. Everyone is supposed to have insurance...

now now Brandt.

I'm not familiar with the Houston area, but Hermann shows to be 33 miles from MSRH. That's a long ride in an ambulance. If it seems bad enough, it's better to have called for a helo than to have not. It can easily take 10 minutes to get someone packaged (semi stabalized, out of their gear, and on a backboard), and by the time that 10 minutes is up, a helicopter could have been there.

I work rural EMS and have utilized a chopper multiple times, as well as cancel them. If it takes me 20 minutes to get somewhere, I'm not going to wait until I'm there to call for one if dispatch paints an ugly picture.

I have no idea who works at MSRH, but I would agree that I typically wouldn't call for one unless I make contact with the patient first. It shouldn't take them but a couple of minutes at most to access the patient. If they have contracted a service that typically does transfers (hospital to hospital) instead of a 911 service, then those calls may be based on inexperience.

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I was lifeflighted at MSRH last year from a shattered humerus. They lifeflighted me because I complained of back problems. I fought it at first saying, "nah its alright just take me via ambulance" but then they said regardless, I'd have to go to Angleton, wait like 8 hours and then go to Memorial.

it, insurance came out to 100 dollars for a heli ride that i was too doped up to remember
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Are you ever going to ride again? I thought you were having fun instructing?
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I was lifeflighted at MSRH last year from a shattered humerus. They lifeflighted me because I complained of back problems. I fought it at first saying, "nah its alright just take me via ambulance" but then they said regardless, I'd have to go to Angleton, wait like 8 hours and then go to Memorial.

it, insurance came out to 100 dollars for a heli ride that i was too doped up to remember
Was that from regular health insurance or did you have track specific insurance that covered the lifeflight?
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Old 04-05-2016, 08:11 AM   #31
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Was that from regular health insurance or did you have track specific insurance that covered the lifeflight?
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:03 AM   #32
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right. The 5 or 10 mile ride via ambulance to Angleton ran me almost $3,200 w/coverage. Luckily I got one of the two box rides to drastically reduce my out of pocket expense by about 1/2 that.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:51 PM   #33
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Mine is just a regular Blue Cross policy - check yours and see if it says it covers emergency transportation.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:54 PM   #34
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Mine is just a regular Blue Cross policy - check yours and see if it says it covers emergency transportation.
as was mine, but ambulance rides are generally "out of network" per the accounts receivable person at Angelton EMS. Hard to believe an airbus would be covered when ground boxes are not. I'll have to review the fine print in my policy.
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I'm under federal bcbs, the two ambulances and heli ride were 100 each. I shat bricks when i saw the helicopter bill was something like 45k before the insurance
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I wonder how all this will be impacted with the opening of Memorial Herman Pearland and the opening of Methodist Pearland later this year.
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There was an unnecessary lifeflight last time at MSRH as well. The guy did a bigass write up about it
I took that ride a few years ago... never got a bill. it was also unnecessary. Yhey kept asking my name..I kept saying "I'm wolverine and i want to look out the window"
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