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Old 03-31-2016, 04:09 PM   #21
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If I am riding at my own risk and I alone am responsible for my own actions, why would you be deciding what gear I have to wear?
Yes i would if you wanna ride on my ride...
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Because if you don't own and aren't wearing proper gear, then it's incredibly likely that you're a stupid squid who is gonna everything up for everyone. At least in my eyes, it's more of a litmus test for people I don't know. If I have a friend who likes to ride in tennis shoes and jeans with no knee protection and a light mesh jacket, but I know he's not a squid, then fine. But if a random shows up for a ride like that, I'm sending him home. That's just me--I am not Morgstang
Devil's advocate:

So, if you're driving down the interstate, and look over at the guy in the lane beside you, and you notice he is not wearing his seatbelt, do you motion him to pull over and tell him he is not allowed to drive near you because he has no sense of safety?
Public roads. Rights. If I decide to follow your group to Yankee's, wearing flip-flops and a speedo, there is really nothing you can do about it. And if you impede my right to travel on public roads, then you would likely face legal repercussions.
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Devil's advocate:

So, if you're driving down the interstate, and look over at the guy in the lane beside you, and you notice he is not wearing his seatbelt, do you motion him to pull over and tell him he is not allowed to drive near you because he has no sense of safety?
Public roads. Rights. If I decide to follow your group to Yankee's, wearing flip-flops and a speedo, there is really nothing you can do about it. And if you impede my right to travel on public roads, then you would likely face legal repercussions.
Yeah, you could be a and follow us. Nobody can legally stop you from being an enormous douche.

The guy driving down the interstate without a seatbelt isn't exactly the same type of guy who is going to stuff me in a turn on 3090 because he's trying to keep up with me and riding over his head.
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I loved the bit about guys routinely doing triple posted. I'd love to see someone hit a 45mph marked turn at 135mph entry speed, lol.
ive done more than Triple posted on 3090!

then they changed the sign!!!

its likely the 20mph twisties just before the last turn up to yankees they speak of.

However it was changed to 45mph last i went.
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Yeah, you could be a and follow us. Nobody can legally stop you from being an enormous douche.

The guy driving down the interstate without a seatbelt isn't exactly the same type of guy who is going to stuff me in a turn on 3090 because he's trying to keep up with me and riding over his head.
? Douche? Slow down there, cowboy. Just pointing out that you cannot dictate what I wear. See the "Devil's advocate" qualifier before the statement. By the way, I do wear gear.
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Yes i would if you wanna ride on my ride...
Okey doke.

Will bikes be inspected?


I have been on group rides before where gear and bikes were inspected, and some riders actually interviewed.
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ive done more than Triple posted on 3090!

then they changed the sign!!!

its likely the 20mph twisties just before the last turn up to yankees they speak of.

However it was changed to 45mph last i went.
Sure, there are plenty of turns out there that are mismarked, but talking about going triple posted as just the regular rule... I don't think so.
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? Douche? Slow down there, cowboy. Just pointing out that you cannot dictate what I wear. See the "Devil's advocate" qualifier before the statement. By the way, I do wear gear.
I'm not calling you an or a douche. I'm saying that if you did follow us after being told that you're not welcome to ride with our group, you would be an and a douche.
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Okey doke.

Will bikes be inspected?


I have been on group rides before where gear and bikes were inspected, and some riders actually interviewed.
Are you coming out to ride?...have never seen you out here...
The thread is a ride thread for Sun...if you would like to join us please post here...
Sorry if im trying to be safety conscious...
When you race at the track i think you are responsible for yourself correct?....will they let you wear whatever you want?...kinda bet not...
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I generally don't give much thought to my corner speed as it relates to the posted recommended speed.


Well, I take that back. I do sometimes give thought to how big the ticket might be if I'm caught.
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I'm not calling you an or a douche. I'm saying that if you did follow us after being told that you're not welcome to ride with our group, you would be an and a douche.
No offense intended here either.

I'd be more inclined to worry about the guy who was lax on routine maintenance having a wheel bearing seize up, a chain snap, or brakes fail when riding in my general vicinity, than whether or not he is wearing armored pants. And some of those problems are not readily apparent when the guy rolls up.
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No offense intended here either.

I'd be more inclined to worry about the guy who was lax on routine maintenance having a wheel bearing seize up, a chain snap, or brakes fail when riding in my general vicinity, than whether or not he is wearing armored pants. And some of those problems are not readily apparent when the guy rolls up.
You are right, that is particularly worrisome. I find that the types of people who ignore routine maintenance are typically also the types of people who don't wear full gear, which is just another reason that I tend to avoid those types of people. It's far from an absolute truth, but just a trend I've picked up on...
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I guess i can change the requirements...just got to thinking about it...since im leading i wont see whats happening behind me so i guess im safe...ok ya'll can ride naked with bald tires and crash and kill yourself...please post here if your coming since this is a ride thread...
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If I am riding at my own risk and I alone am responsible for my own actions, why would you be deciding what gear I have to wear?

Because, as others have said - YOU WILL EVERYONE'S DAY UP IF YOU CRASH. Well, you greatly increase the likelihood of that.


Long story short- if you organize lead or participate in enough group rides, you'd realize how often people go down, and how much it up everyone else's day.

On our BVSR/TAMUMC rides, its helmet-jacket-gloves-jeans-overankles, minimum. Bikes are looked over too.

And if you show up without gear and want to follow us? Cool, but interfere with us at all and you will get stuffed/cut-off, buzzed, pushed and harassed on every corner and every straight by this self-righteous (but really fast) guy on an FZ1. It's happened before.

Anyways, Keith is just trying to continue his history of safe fun rides, if you can't extend a minimal courtesy to others, IMHO, F off. Go ride whoolies on 290
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Are you coming out to ride?...have never seen you out here...
The thread is a ride thread for Sun...if you would like to join us please post here...
Sorry if im trying to be safety conscious...
When you race at the track i think you are responsible for yourself correct?....will they let you wear whatever you want?...kinda bet not...

At the track, not only do they dictate what you have to wear they also dictate how you are allowed to ride.

I've actually been on group rides where riding behavior was policed as well. I was asked to leave that particular group ride.

I've been jonsin' for a good long ride. So yeah, I'm kicking it around.
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And if you show up without gear and want to follow us? Cool, but interfere with us at all and you will get stuffed/cut-off, buzzed, pushed and harassed on every corner and every straight by this self-righteous (but really fast) guy on an FZ1. It's happened before.

Well, that doesn't sound all that safe!
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Well, that doesn't sound all that safe!
Not for the guy without gear.

For the "Mother Goose" on the fz.... it's quite fun!
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Ok...whos coming to ride Sun?...lol
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aint nobody tryna call an ambulance AND a tow truck. Or a life-flight and a tow truck.

Seen both of those scenarios, thankfully only the first one more than once.

But plenty enough to not give a second of my day to some selfish a**hole that wants the joy and benefits of a group ride but only thinks of himself.

BTW- thats like 50% of people on bikes LOL
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Ok...whos coming to ride Sun?...lol
We've got 12+ confirmed for 166 to 390, KSU 1115.

We cancelled on Yankees on account of the bicycle race on 3090.


A few years back, that life flight incident I referred to earlier happened when a pair of cyclists got scared an swerved across the double yellow, into path of passing bikes. Ugly, , terrible mess.
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