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Old 03-27-2016, 07:13 AM   #1
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Changes to my ride threads...

In an effort to establish myself on the forum when i first joined i always made our ride alongs open to all skill levels...as we started getting larger turnouts it has become a challenge to keep the pace comfortable with various skill levels...we generally end up riding at a more spirited pace since the majority of riders are on sport bikes which makes it tough on the ones who are new or havent had much experience on curvy roads...i almost thought about discontinuing my ride along threads but i would like to try a different approach...from now on im going to be very specific with the requirements for each ride along i post...this is purely done as a safety issue...each ride along thread will be posted for certain skill levels only...we will have a set ride along for newer riders who havent had alot of experience or would like to just have a laid back ride to just enjoy the scenery...during this ride there will be NO spirited riding at all...the next level ride along post will be a spirited level...that being said it will not be a continual high speed pace...we will ride the curves at a good pace but maintain general posted speeds in the straights...if your a to the wall the whole time rider this will not be for you...please be very selective when choosing your skill level...alot of riders feel they can ride better than they actually can and end up having to get out of there comfort level to keep up and thats when accidents happen...i am by far no pro rider myself and have had my share of close calls due to the exact same thing...the idea of my ride alongs is to offer you a fun experience with other riders of the same level...i know alot of Houston area riders have really enjoyed getting out of the city to ride some really good curvy roads out here...im open to any further suggestions that you may have also...sorry to be so long winded but i feel like these changes need to be made...we look forward to meeting more of you in the future...
There are always inherant risks involved with rides and i am simply posting that me and my wife are riding and your welcome to join us...i accept no responsibility for any accidents or injuries that may be caused...everyone coming out to ride with us will accept responsibilty for there own actions...ride at your own risk...
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:58 AM   #2
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Well said.
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:31 AM   #3
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Just make sure the message is loud and clear during the pre-ride meeting and it should be all good...

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Thanks Brian same to you and your G/F...
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Honestly, as a noob, this definitely helps to eliminate my reservations with riding on these rides. I will go at a pace I'm comfortable with but I also have worries about being "the guy" that holds up the rest of the group. This will certainly help us know which rides are more for us, especially riding two up.

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I am also going to have a limited number of spots for each ride...15 or 20 riders are way to hard to keep up with at any pace...im thinking around 7 to 8 including my wife and i...when i post a ride along thread i will name the amount...the first ones to commit will be in...maybes and i mights wont be counted...if you commit to ride and are a no show without giving a reason that will be frowned upon for the next ride you want to join...again im not trying to be a pain in the ...safety is the concern here and the lessor number riders make it somewhat safer in my opinion...
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Honestly, as a noob, this definitely helps to eliminate my reservations with riding on these rides. I will go at a pace I'm comfortable with but I also have worries about "the guy" that holds up the rest of the group. This will certainly help us know which rides are more for us, especially riding two up.

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What about doing them on a tiered monthly basis? First Saturday, noobs. Second, slightly less noobish. Third, intermediate. Fourth, spirited.
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That might be scary...lol

Good point though on the different levels each week...im just trying to come up with a safe alternative instead of it being a 15 person free for all...its always fun till someone gets hurt then it makes you think of alternatives...
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Even an A and B group with a leader and sweeper for each might be a possibility if u think that will work.

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I should have done that with the sat group...we had 13 riders
That will be done for sure from now on if we allow more than 6 or so...
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Honestly, as a noob, this definitely helps to eliminate my reservations with riding on these rides. I will go at a pace I'm comfortable with but I also have worries about being "the guy" that holds up the rest of the group. This will certainly help us know which rides are more for us, especially riding two up.

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That might be scary...lol

Good point though on the different levels each week...im just trying to come up with a safe alternative instead of it being a 15 person free for all...its always fun till someone gets hurt then it makes you think of alternatives...
You are already exceptionally concerned with rider safety. A posted pace for the ride is a good idea but you shouldn't feel at fault if someone goes down. You can't be responsible for other people choosing the ride over their head. Your pace is incredibly reasonable.
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Since we are all offering ideas give me your opinion on this...would it be wrong for me to state in my spirited ride that if a rider isnt able to keep up he may be asked to leave for his safety?...better to leave than crash and die?

Lots of riders feel they can ride better than they actually can and wanna ride in the spirited groups...

Again i am by far no pro-rider so i can fall into the same category if im not carefull...ive refused to go on rides with groups i know are riding faster than i know i can...
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Since we are all offering ideas give me your opinion on this...would it be wrong for me to state in my spirited ride that if a rider isnt able to keep up he may be asked to leave for his safety?...better to leave than crash and die?

Lots of riders feel they can ride better than they actually can and wanna ride in the spirited groups...

Again i am by far no pro-rider so i can fall into the same category if im not carefull...ive refused to go on rides with groups i know are riding faster than i know i can...
That would be fair. My general rule of thumb is to tell people "if you're not completely comfortable with double posted, you're not going to have any fun". I'm still more of the mindset that you shouldn't have to babysit someone if they how up and ride over their head after the pace is clearly stated, so I'd opt to just wait for them rather than send them home. But I don't see anything wrong with that proposal if that's how you want to handle it. My only concern is a rider who is not quite fast enough for that may push themselves to keep up so they don't get sent home rather than ride in their comfort zone and be a little off pace.
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Honestly, as a noob, this definitely helps to eliminate my reservations with riding on these rides. I will go at a pace I'm comfortable with but I also have worries about being "the guy" that holds up the rest of the group. This will certainly help us know which rides are more for us, especially riding two up.

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On my 250 I always rode at the back, if not as the sweeper. I didn't want to get in the way of the big bikes and slow them down. Now I'm on a big bike and ride in the back because I'm not comfortable on it yet. I was slow in the corners then, I'm slow in the corners now. Only difference is now I can actually catch up in the straights.
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