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Old 07-23-2007, 03:24 PM   #41
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:25 PM   #42
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Oh, No doubt. I'm not a lawyer, but I've always questioned the strength of those things though. Maybe it was a television show that I was watching where they said you can't sign away your rights. :dontknow:
Definetly something to think about. You sign a release of liability. Basicly it means if you get hurt it is not their fault. Of course that is unless there was neglect on their part. I don't believe anybody signs away their responsibilities and possibly they could be liable since track days are considered rider schools on a closed road course. So being that they are still on the road I am sure they are responsible for their actions. All this changes once you mention the word race.
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his insurance should have to pay to fix her bike or get her new leathers. maybe not a big deal if you have full coverage but for the liability only riders, they shouldn't have to pay to fix their stuff on the basis of someone else's actions. i'd still get his contact info and get his insurance to pay for my losses. just replace it is all i'd ask for
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but it seems that should still apply:dontknow: would hitting someone on a private driveway be the same?
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I don't agree... as state there are certain, 'rules' applied to certain classes.
If you violate these 'rules', particularly if you do so deliberately, the you should be prepared to face all the consequences of it.


...and I agree with ya D.
There are rules that you are SUPPOSE to follow but this is America and everyone cannot follow rules. You guys cannot even follow rules on the MH Board.

If you are on the track and someone takes you out, there is nothing you can do to have them pay all your bills.
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This is the track man not the street.
You might be missing the point Big Guy. It was not a race, it was a riders school on a closed road course. This could place the accussed rider in a bad position. At no point did anybody sign away their responsibilities. Although, I don't have the paperwork in front of me but, I will in a couple of minutes.
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but it seems that should still apply:dontknow: would hitting someone on a private driveway be the same?
A lot of bikes out there dont even carry insurance. If one takes you out, who are you going to call?
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A lot of bikes out there dont even carry insurance. If one takes you out, who are you going to call?
my insurance, for unisured motorist
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There are rules that you are SUPPOSE to follow but this is America and everyone cannot follow rules. You guys cannot even follow rules on the MH Board.

If you are on the track and someone takes you out, there is nothing you can do to have them pay all your bills.
there is always something you can do... wether it yields results is a different matter. So, if I bring the rider and the orginization up on civil charges of neglect one of them is going to loose and I doubt it is the event organizer.
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ghost busters!? j/k. back the the subject. heal up soon and back on the track. how bad was that foot injury? it looks nasty
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there is always something you can do... wether it yields results is a different matter. So, if I bring the rider and the orginization up on civil charges of neglect one of them is going to loose and I doubt it is the event organizer.
Looks like most of this is covered in the waiver.
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Exactly..............yours not them
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i thought what we were talking about is directly related to her accident. this is all info she may be contemplating. anyway, get well soon
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Looks like most of this is covered in the waiver.
What does it say?
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Definetly something to think about.
Yeah.


Trackday orgs carry insurance, right? I mean, if they couldn't be held liable, it wouldn't be needed, no?

I'm thinking the guy should have been tossed. Broke the rules, caused damage and injury. Instead he goes back out in a different group and no further incidents (i think) But what if he did have another incident, even if it was truly an accident. That 2nd rider and their lawyer could say the organization was negligent for letting him back out there.

Just throwing that out there. It may or may not stand, but it still takes money to defend yourself even from frivolous lawsuits.
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+1, I agree on the whole idea of regulating drama....but maybe have them sit out a session or two to think about what they did wrong....kinda like the timeout thing in Kindergarten.

I think I'm more dissapointed about the no apology or anything and the fact that he had to be approached.
I whole-heartly agree.

I am mostly upset about the fact that the guy didn't come to Gavin (who with his Dad put up the bike and our stuff for almost an hour) nor did he come to me when I came back from the hospital. You may not think it means anything to the person who you just startled or spooked, but trust me, it does; especially when you do not care to wave, talk to them or apologize. Apparently, this guy had no track experience period. Not on nor off the track.

For the future, I do think the rider should get some sort of 'thinking session'. It will make sure he truly understands what he did and what the rules are. It will make it more enjoyable for everyone. However, I do love LSTD and fully respect the decision.

One of the instructors told me that they kept an eye on the guy and he behaved for the rest of the day.
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...at someone's suggestion of expanding into a new thread. :-)

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i don't have much else to say on it, as i still have yet to do a track day, but i would still treat it like i would any other wreck. it is still your motor vehicle hitting something. that is why i have insurance, to fix my bike if they don't have it. would be the same in a hay field or on the street. a wreck is a wreck
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As long as it stays in relation to the general topic (getting wrecked), it is fine.

I will try to post pics of the Viffer later. I think Chris took some but I am not sure if he is going to post them.
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