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Old 03-11-2016, 02:35 PM   #21
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lol, now we are talking about factory race teams.

Let's get back on topic, which is the discussion of the over priced, out dated, under powered BS that you fanboys are so fond of.

Justifying your brands lack of features when compared to the competition because electronic aids are for inferior riders is a joke. The only reason Kawi has gotten close to the price point of a Honda in the 600 class is because of the added expense of the electronics that it possesses.

MSRP for this BS is a joke when you consider you can get the same bike that was manufactured 5 years ago at 1/2 the price.

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lol, now we are talking about factory race teams.

Let's get back on topic, which is the discussion of the over priced, out dated, under powered BS that you fanboys are so fond of.

Justifying your brands lack of features when compared to the competition because electronic aids are for inferior riders is a joke. The only reason Kawi has gotten close to the price point of a Honda in the 600 class is because of the added expense of the electronics that it possesses.

MSRP for this BS is a joke when you consider you can get the same bike that was manufactured 5 years ago at 1/2 the price.
When you find 5 year old new/old stock, let me know

HESD is a nice feature by the way
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Perhaps this is a bit more relevant

http://www.sportrider.com/sportbikes...cbr1000rr-dyno
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Perhaps this is a bit more relevant

http://www.sportrider.com/sportbikes...cbr1000rr-dyno
They give out trophies for dyno contests, do they?

You know the BMW competes in the Isle of Man TT, right?
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And do you know that last year's Superstock race had 5 BMW's and 2 Kawasakis finish ahead of the best Honda which was ridden by the outright lap record holder you mentioned earlier.

Topping that list of BMW's was M.Dunlop who bought one off of the classifieds adds and gave everyone a run for the money after he showed up on Yamaha and didn't like it.

Anyway you missed my point on the dyno chart... It is far more supportive of the Honda than I would've thought so I made it easier to understand and used colors that you can see.

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And do you know that last year's Superstock race had 5 BMW's and 2 Kawasakis finish ahead of the best Honda which was ridden by the outright lap record holder you mentioned earlier.

Topping that list of BMW's was M.Dunlop who bought one off of the classifieds adds and gave everyone a run for the money after he showed up on Yamaha and didn't like it.

Anyway you missed my point on the dyno chart... It is far more supportive of the Honda than I would've thought so I made it easier to understand and used colors that you can see.

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Oh I saw it and understood it, but my question remains the same
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Oh I saw it and understood it, but my question remains the same
The Honda was lucky because this particular day the people operating the dyno gave out participation trophies as well. So both bikes received awards

You, (a Honda fanboy & Longhorn fan) are probably very grateful for the "everyone wins" mentality.
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The Honda was lucky because this particular day the people operating the dyno gave out participation trophies as well. So both bikes received awards

You, (a Honda fanboy & Longhorn fan) are probably very grateful for the "everyone wins" mentality.
Uh, Longhorn Foundation Member. Where did you earn a degree?
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Uh, Longhorn Foundation Member. Where did you earn a degree?
Working on getting my associates right now, more than likely the B.S. will be from UHCL if I get that far

All of the BS aside, I am and have been a longhorns fan since I can remember
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Bevo I'm trying to help you here... The Honda looks not half bad on the dyno against the BMW and puts out more power in the usable range and just as much work through to 12K rpm.

Meaning it can move the same weight the same distance in same time through a range where most people will ever use. This is also seen in it having quicker roll on times from 60-80 and 80-100 mph than the BMW and an equivalent 1/4 mile E.T. despite being down on top speed at the end.

You're beating down the wrong path trying to make the case using race results... That is not what Hondas are built for... never mind the guy who's absolutely whipping everyone in WSBK right now is a guy who wasted his carrear riding a Honda and became an overnight class killer on a Kawasaki.

The IOM is another animal but as you seem to have ignored Honda got their butts handed to them there by a bunch of BMWs in the Superstock race which is more representative of stock bike form... and there are also no trophy for 8th place either.
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Bevo I'm trying to help you here... The Honda looks not half bad on the dyno against the BMW and puts out more power in the usable range and just as much work through to 12K rpm.

Meaning it can move the same weight the same distance in same time through a range where most people will ever use. This is also seen in it having quicker roll on times from 60-80 and 80-100 mph than the BMW and an equivalent 1/4 mile E.T. despite being down on top speed at the end.

You're beating down the wrong path trying to make the case using race results... That is not what Hondas are built for... never mind the guy who's absolutely whipping everyone in WSBK right now is a guy who wasted his carrear riding a Honda and became an overnight class killer on a Kawasaki.

The IOM is another animal but as you seem to have ignored Honda got their butts handed to them there by a bunch of BMWs in the Superstock race which is more representative of stock bike form... and there are also no trophy for 8th place either.
So what bike holds the superstock lap record?
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Working on getting my associates right now, more than likely the B.S. will be from UHCL if I get that far

All of the BS aside, I am and have been a longhorns fan since I can remember
So you're what aggies call a t-shirt fan
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So you're what aggies call a t-shirt fan
I suppose. I guess I won't ever have the opportunity to attend a big university. My COM Associate's and UHCL Bachelor's will have to do. That leaves me with more money in my pocket. Money I won't be spending on a Honda
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So what bike holds the superstock lap record?
Imagine how much faster that lap would have been on a different bike

here's some standings from WSBK:

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So you mean that the Honda, despite being the most dated bike on the market and offering one of the lowest price points, is still bested only by the brand new Kawasaki?

Yeah, you're really showing how outright terrible that Honda is
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So you mean that the Honda, despite being the most dated bike on the market and offering one of the lowest price points, is still bested only by the brand new Kawasaki?

Yeah, you're really showing how outright terrible that Honda is


There's very many arguments being made at the same time. The honda fanboys are running to results on track. Also I would like to point out the margin is considerably higher from 1-2 compared to the difference where the manufacturer as a whole beat out the MV by a point.
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