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Old 07-22-2007, 10:02 PM   #1
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Hydra-Shok to the chest.

Looking up some CHL info and ran across this.

"A few days ago I had a visit from one of our students who was involved in a fatal shooting last year. To protect his privacy, we’ll go by his first initial, K. K is doing well, and has adjusted well after his experience. He shared some thoughts that may be helpful to you.
K was parked at a truck stop in Mississippi, pumping gas for his vehicle. Another man pulled up at an adjacent pump, and exited his vehicle. For no apparent reason, the man approached K and began verbally abusing him. K told the man he wanted no trouble, just go away. The man went back to his vehicle and got a sap (a weighted flexible club) and struck K with it. As K turned away from the blow, he was hit again on the back of the head. This blow dropped him to his knees, with the man standing behind him. K drew his Beretta 8045 from under his shirt, and fired three rounds behind him, holding the gun around his side. At that point the assailant ran off across the parking lot, collapsing some distance away. Although he had a gash on the back of his head, K had the presence of mind to ask a nearby witness to wait for police, and tell someone else to call the police. When the police arrived, K had his gun holstered and his ID and permit in hand. The assailant died, and the Grand Jury returned a No True Bill against K, ruling the death a justifiable homicide. Here are some important points:

1. You can’t pick the time or place. K was minding his own business pumping gas when attacked. Fortunately, he had his gun on.
2. Violence can be completely random and unprovoked. The dead suspect turned out to have a long history of violent assaults against others. He apparently was mentally unstable.
3. Don’t expect “Hollywood” reactions if you are forced to shoot someone. After three rounds of .45 Hydra-Shok to the chest, this attacker ran 25 yards before collapsing face up in the parking lot.
4. Think about these issues in advance and have a plan. K was able to remain calm and avoid danger from responding police, who may only know there has been a shooting and that an armed “suspect” is on the scene.
You must keep your wits.
5. Don’t let fear of the criminal justice system or of lawsuits paralyze you into inaction. One more blow of that sap may have ended K’s life. At least in our part of the country, legitimate self defense is still a basic human right."



Three Hydra Shoks to the chest and still run 25 yards. :notworthy
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:18 PM   #2
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Looking up some CHL info and ran across this.

"A few days ago I had a visit from one of our students who was involved in a fatal shooting last year. To protect his privacy, we’ll go by his first initial, K. K is doing well, and has adjusted well after his experience. He shared some thoughts that may be helpful to you.
K was parked at a truck stop in Mississippi, pumping gas for his vehicle. Another man pulled up at an adjacent pump, and exited his vehicle. For no apparent reason, the man approached K and began verbally abusing him. K told the man he wanted no trouble, just go away. The man went back to his vehicle and got a sap (a weighted flexible club) and struck K with it. As K turned away from the blow, he was hit again on the back of the head. This blow dropped him to his knees, with the man standing behind him. K drew his Beretta 8045 from under his shirt, and fired three rounds behind him, holding the gun around his side. At that point the assailant ran off across the parking lot, collapsing some distance away. Although he had a gash on the back of his head, K had the presence of mind to ask a nearby witness to wait for police, and tell someone else to call the police. When the police arrived, K had his gun holstered and his ID and permit in hand. The assailant died, and the Grand Jury returned a No True Bill against K, ruling the death a justifiable homicide. Here are some important points:

1. You can’t pick the time or place. K was minding his own business pumping gas when attacked. Fortunately, he had his gun on.
2. Violence can be completely random and unprovoked. The dead suspect turned out to have a long history of violent assaults against others. He apparently was mentally unstable.
3. Don’t expect “Hollywood” reactions if you are forced to shoot someone. After three rounds of .45 Hydra-Shok to the chest, this attacker ran 25 yards before collapsing face up in the parking lot.
4. Think about these issues in advance and have a plan. K was able to remain calm and avoid danger from responding police, who may only know there has been a shooting and that an armed “suspect” is on the scene.
You must keep your wits.
5. Don’t let fear of the criminal justice system or of lawsuits paralyze you into inaction. One more blow of that sap may have ended K’s life. At least in our part of the country, legitimate self defense is still a basic human right."



Three Hydra Shoks to the chest and still run 25 yards. :notworthy
if it was a 9mm he would've made it to 50yrds
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:46 PM   #3
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nah if it was a nine he would have lived..... i have hydras and gold dots alternating in my guns (40 and 45 cal)
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:56 PM   #4
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Good article.
FWIW, I prefer the Honady TAP ammo or Black Talons. They both stop better.
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was he under the influence of a narcotic or other drug?
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was he under the influence of a narcotic or other drug?
That's what I was thinking :confused1
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nah if it was a nine he would have lived..... i have hydras and gold dots alternating in my guns (40 and 45 cal)

I have both Black Talons and SilverTips alternating in my clip
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I run everyday run of the mil winchester hollow points...Im sure theyre plenty effective..hope I never have to find out = )
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Round placement trumps round displacement.
This is true, but I'd rather be shot with a 9mm than a .45 or even a .40.

I've seen first hand how ineffective the 9mm round can be, and how effective the .45 is.

I've yet to shoot anyone with a .40 yet, but I've been pretty impressed with what it did to ballistic gel.
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Patrick...not only a gun nut, but also the famed local motorcycle go-to guy. I wanna be like you when I grow up = )
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