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Old 07-19-2007, 01:35 PM   #1
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Texas DOT to Install Federally Funded Highway Speed Cameras
Despite the opposition of the state legislature, the Texas Department of Transportation proposes a federally funded speed camera test.

TxDOT logoDespite the near-unanimous opposition in the state legislature to the use of speed cameras, the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) is moving forward on a proposal to deploy photo radar on state highways using federal gas tax funds. Legislation awaiting Governor Rick Perry's signature prohibited only municipalities -- like Marble Falls and Rhome -- from installing automated speeding ticket systems. It was silent on the possibility of a state-run system (read legislation).

TxDOT began searching in April for a vendor that, using federal funds, would allow the agency "to assess and evaluate all elements of an automated speed notification system." Once selected, the vendor would operate an average time speed camera test for at least six months on Interstate 10 near El Paso and State Highway 6 near College Station.

Time-distance ticketing systems use multiple cameras spaced far apart on a freeway. Each car is photographed once as it enters the first section of road. Miles later a second photograph is taken that allows the vehicle's average speed to be calculated from the time it took to travel between the two locations. In use in Britain under the trade name SPECS, these cameras are commonly referred to as "yellow vultures" and are among the most lucrative in the country.

In its request for proposals, TxDOT cited success of speed cameras in the UK, which generated 120 million (US $240 million) in revenue in 2003, and in Washington, DC, which has generated $217 million in revenue with its red light and speed cameras since 1999. TxDOT's vendor will send notices -- warnings at first -- to motorists driving just 5 MPH over the limit with an accuracy level of +/- 2 MPH, meaning those driving just 3 MPH over the limit could receive a photograph and letter in the mail.

The River Cities Daily Tribune, which first reported the story last week, noted that TxDOT also ordered Marble Falls to remove its speed camera van from state highways in April citing safety concerns.

"How hypocritical is that?" Marble Falls Mayor Raymond Whitman told the Daily Tribune. "I have a bit of a problem with it, not because they're using the camera, but because if it's unsafe for us to use, how can it be safe for the state to do it?"

A full copy of the TxDOT speed camera request for proposals is available in a 219k PDF file at the source link below.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:35 PM   #2
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that would suck to get a ticket for going 5mph over the speed limit.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:43 PM   #4
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Where is the link?

and they would have to take pics of your plates right?.... i see that being hard to do for most bikes with their plates under the tail section.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:54 PM   #6
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time to get a block so they cannot take pics of the plate that will solve that problem, NEXT
Just put it under the tail :icon_bigg
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time to get a block so they cannot take pics of the plate that will solve that problem, NEXT
I am proposing that I drive all my vehicles without a license plate until we are issued Federal plates. Seeing as this is a federal system and I am currently paying TX for my driving privledges. Oh by the way it has been determined by the supreme court that it is your constitutional right to operate a motor vehicle. This poses a lot of issues....
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I say we destroy all the cameras!!!! :icon_bigg
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Repost from a few months back, complete with the same quote from the Marble Falls mayor.
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I think im the only one who gets this... Good book.... Orwell and Nineteen Eighty-Four FTW!
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maybe they can install them in our homes next to make sure we arent doing anything bad~
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:21 PM   #12
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....reputedly the UK cameras, 'lose' you if you change lanes between cameras.
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Man this sucks either we destroy them or I tuck my plate under the bike more :( But the redlight camras I kinda like cuase everybody runs redlights and that is dangerous.
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:56 PM   #15
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I DEFINETELY NEED TO TUCK MY PLATES UNDER THE TAIL.
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:59 PM   #16
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:14 PM   #17
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Mayor Bill White was on the Debra Duncan radio show last year, talking about red light cameras.
I called in to ask him about the Orwellian aspects of that and to ask where it would stop because they had already proposed surveillance cameras along downtown streets.
I got on the air but before I could even finish asking my question he and Debra made some little sarcastic joke and click I was done.
It seems like we are getting close to the time we need to start worrying about this. Those cams watching downtown will no doubt be equipped with facial recognition software and soon you won't be able to go anywhere with out someone knowing about it.
They will say the same as Bill White did... if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about. Bull
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:17 PM   #18
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I don't want to get too long winded but in Motorcycle consumer news magazine there was an article about how some countries in Europe already have plans to track you car with satellites and then charge you a tax based on how far you drive.
Speeding tickets based on satellites will not be far behind.
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thats ****ed up, straight up.
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