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Old 07-17-2007, 10:32 AM   #21
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my guess is a combination of a few things. suspension off, tire pressure, and rider fatigue
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you need race tires not street tires
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Was the tire warmers used on the tires? If it isn't then my guess would be the tires has harden. If it is street or stock tires, same answer.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:01 AM   #24
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Was the tire warmers used on the tires? If it isn't then my guess would be the tires has harden. If it is street or stock tires, same answer.
Yes, warmers were used and they were race tires. Pirelli Dot RACE tires.
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so have we found out why yet? im curios because i wiped out so many times and there was no catastrophic event to tell what happened.......just all of a sudden low sides.
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so have we found out why yet? im curios because i wiped out so many times and there was no catastrophic event to tell what happened.......just all of a sudden low sides.
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He said he didn't understand why he low sided either.
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He said he didn't understand why he low sided either.
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I give up. Come on with the answer already.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:08 PM   #30
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Didn't see it but a good guess.
Ran out of tire.
I followed Bill for around 5 laps 2 sessions before his low-side. He was over shooting the turn-in points and had the bike at maximum lean angle. Probably didn't help being the last session of the day being tired losing focus.
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Guys and Gals - Sorry I haven't had more for you - I have not been able to get into yahoo mail or motohouston all morning, don't know what the problem has been, but it's working now. My phone however was rining off the wall @ 8 this morning from - guess who ----- gixxerbill. I told him first as a courtesy to him, and he asked me not to ever tell a sole. I can tell you a few things is WAS NOT:
Low Tire Pressure
Leaking Fork oil
Incorrect Suspension Settings
Lack of Tire warmers
Lack of Race tires
Bad Tires
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I'll have pictures this afternoon if I don't have trouble with the system.

Drum Roll ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He hit the curb with his front tire/wheel. I think (after some investigation and discussions with eyewitness's) I think he hit the curb just after about the 1/2 way point through the keyhole. The following parts on his bike have - no doubt yellow curb paint on them:
Left side of front tire
Left outermost edge of front rim (along with deep grinding marks)
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There were several of the small asphalt rocks in the bottom of the fairing - they have yellow curb paint on one side and fresh (as removed) asphalt on the other side. That's what I found. I will try to get some pics of the details. Now - you can all decide WHY you think this happened, now that we may know WHAT happened. Flame away - Bill about to be back from lunch, and he's got his sleeves rolled up!
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:15 PM   #32
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Ok here is what Doug told me. He said he found yellow paint on my tire, wheel, clutch lever and fairing. So he thinks I hit a curb which could have happen but I wonder if I hit the curb after the lowside and the bike slid into one. Anybody remember where my bike ended up after the get off to help solve this mystery?
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:30 PM   #33
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Anybody remember where my bike ended up after the get off to help solve this mystery?
I'd have to defer to Dr. Gonzo or brother Bill on that. Though I'm sure your bike was sliding enough to reach the curbing on the next corner, I was too busy dodging your to say whether or not it actually did...
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you prolly went in too low in the turn, that paint is very slippery, and when rubber meets it, it's pretty much over if you are leaned over, i've hit it at Cresson with the bike straight up and down and the back wheel started spinning and sliding. I say, you turned in too much trying to drag your glove, or your elbow, not sure which you were concentrating on. :laughing6

Since your wheelies have been banned maybe you're trying to do like Spies or Hopper and drag your elbow now..:icon_bigg
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Anybody remember where my bike ended up after the get off to help solve this mystery?
Bill - you told me you were standing on PAVEMENT when you picked the bike up - how could it have made it to the right side - the curb would have had to be crossed by all parts - even the clutch handle, for it to have been on that part of the track, and when you stood it up you would have been off the track - my 2 cents.
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you prolly went in too low in the turn, that paint is very slippery, and when rubber meets it, it's pretty much over if you are leaned over, i've hit it at Cresson with the bike straight up and down and the back wheel started spinning and sliding. I say, you turned in too much trying to drag your glove, or your elbow, not sure which you were concentrating on. :laughing6

Since your wheelies have been banned maybe you're trying to do like Spies or Hopper and drag your elbow now..:icon_bigg
Those guys are wusses I dragged my (not really on purpose though) :laughing6
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Bill - you told me you were standing on PAVEMENT when you picked the bike up - how could it have made it to the right side - the curb would have had to be crossed by all parts - even the clutch handle, for it to have been on that part of the track, and when you stood it up you would have been off the track - my 2 cents.

Hmmm good point.
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you prolly went in too low in the turn, that paint is very slippery, and when rubber meets it, it's pretty much over if you are leaned over, i've hit it at Cresson with the bike straight up and down and the back wheel started spinning and sliding. I say, you turned in too much trying to drag your glove, or your elbow, not sure which you were concentrating on. :laughing6

Since your wheelies have been banned maybe you're trying to do like Spies or Hopper and drag your elbow now..:icon_bigg

+1 to this.
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