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Old 11-27-2015, 11:07 AM   #1
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TWS (Texas World Speedway) - Sat Nov 28 & Sun Nov 29 - Roll Call

Looks like the forecast has gotten a little better. Maybe some mid-day showers but its gonna be damp and chilly. Who is going and what day?

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I'm in. First track day for me. Forecast still looks bleh. Should be interesting.

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Old 11-27-2015, 11:35 PM   #5
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All taped up .. got a pack a few things and its gonna be an early morning. Good thoughts gonna be a beautiful day.
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It was a fun day. Cold and wet, but fun. Definitely looking forward to the next time.

Attendance was sparse, especially in level three. Plenty of garage space available. Would imagine it will be the same tomorrow.
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It was a good day. 3 riders down in Lvl 1 ... no transports ... I would say it was a good day. It was my first time at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and I was not looking forward to riding in the rain but by the time the day was over I had fun.

It was a challenge not knowing the track and riding in the rain (I avoid the rain). My class time today went like this "keep working on the line". I was very frustrated most of the day trying to find my marks with a face shield full of rain but that last session right before lunch when the track dried up a bit before the rain returned made the biggest difference. I was able to find some confidence and look forward to coming back in March to a dry track.

I did get to leave on a high note and frustration at the same time. We had just went out for the next to last session of the day and my goal was to back it down a bit and hit my entry marks and get my elbow down (yeah I was so frustrated with the line a BP 101 had escaped me all day). I did ok on my first lap still jacked up my exit of 5 making 6 real sketchy being wet. Did my awesome run into 7 (my fav corner of the place that corner kills) ok 8 and 9 ...pretty good on the run back to the front. Lap 2 best lap of the day .. finally getting in good starting with a good turn 2 and before I knew it I stopped fighting the bike and let follow the track. Nailed 5 and 6 .. blazed 7 ... hugged the curb in 10 and got a run to 12 when the bottom the just fell out of the sky. But I got to leave there knowing I could do it at least one time so it was a good day.
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What, no other follow ups?
I THINK there was only 1 wreck on sunday. Green bike turning onto the back straight. Lots of guys taking it easy in the rain, and plenty going hard too.

I ran on Sunday and had a blast. I've been stuck in rain quite a bit commuting, but never on a track. I don't regret it for a minute... though the paddock continually cleared out more and more through out the day. I think at 3:30 there was only one person still heading out on the track.... So i don't think everyone was enjoying it as much as usual. Rain had picked up, puddles got much bigger. The increased rain had finally worked its way through my boots and leathers and was starting to feel a bit cold.

The puddles gave some "incentive" to stay on the EXACT line you wanted. They actually worked very well as markers in some areas.
Great incentive to keep it SMOOTH on all inputs (probably easier on my 650r than many other bikes). There were several times the rear got a bit squirrelly, but not out of hand... just a little shimmy.
The limited traction was also the incentive to really hang off and let the bike stay as upright as possible.... even while going a moderate pace.
A few times, the track was so empty I kept checking the flaggers to make sure I was actually supposed to be out there. I'm not accustomed to 3 full laps without seeing a single bike. 2 others said it was basically the same except they kept seeing each other on the opposite side (exiting turn 3 looking over to the straight before carousel).

RainX was a MUST. I swapped visors to a clean clear one instead of my RainXed mirror visor i had been using and had a HORRIBLE time with both fog and water. The RainXed one was fine all morning. Also, RainX on the GoPro seemed to help too. The instructors were recommending Lemon Pledge for visors.
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What, no other follow ups?
I THINK there was only 1 wreck on sunday. Green bike turning onto the back straight. Lots of guys taking it easy in the rain, and plenty going hard too.

I ran on Sunday and had a blast. I've been stuck in rain quite a bit commuting, but never on a track. I don't regret it for a minute... though the paddock continually cleared out more and more through out the day. I think at 3:30 there was only one person still heading out on the track.... So i don't think everyone was enjoying it as much as usual. Rain had picked up, puddles got much bigger. The increased rain had finally worked its way through my boots and leathers and was starting to feel a bit cold.

The puddles gave some "incentive" to stay on the EXACT line you wanted. They actually worked very well as markers in some areas.
Great incentive to keep it SMOOTH on all inputs (probably easier on my 650r than many other bikes). There were several times the rear got a bit squirrelly, but not out of hand... just a little shimmy.
The limited traction was also the incentive to really hang off and let the bike stay as upright as possible.... even while going a moderate pace.
A few times, the track was so empty I kept checking the flaggers to make sure I was actually supposed to be out there. I'm not accustomed to 3 full laps without seeing a single bike. 2 others said it was basically the same except they kept seeing each other on the opposite side (exiting turn 3 looking over to the straight before carousel).

RainX was a MUST. I swapped visors to a clean clear one instead of my RainXed mirror visor i had been using and had a HORRIBLE time with both fog and water. The RainXed one was fine all morning. Also, RainX on the GoPro seemed to help too. The instructors were recommending Lemon Pledge for visors.
geesh i thought i recognized you and your bro there. but i couldnt finger it. yeah for commuters like us conditions like we had sunday is far from the worst weve seen.

however, we had the luxury of a safe environment.

can wait till net year!
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What, no other follow ups?
I THINK there was only 1 wreck on sunday. Green bike turning onto the back straight. Lots of guys taking it easy in the rain, and plenty going hard too.

I ran on Sunday and had a blast. I've been stuck in rain quite a bit commuting, but never on a track. I don't regret it for a minute... though the paddock continually cleared out more and more through out the day. I think at 3:30 there was only one person still heading out on the track.... So i don't think everyone was enjoying it as much as usual. Rain had picked up, puddles got much bigger. The increased rain had finally worked its way through my boots and leathers and was starting to feel a bit cold.

The puddles gave some "incentive" to stay on the EXACT line you wanted. They actually worked very well as markers in some areas.
Great incentive to keep it SMOOTH on all inputs (probably easier on my 650r than many other bikes). There were several times the rear got a bit squirrelly, but not out of hand... just a little shimmy.
The limited traction was also the incentive to really hang off and let the bike stay as upright as possible.... even while going a moderate pace.
A few times, the track was so empty I kept checking the flaggers to make sure I was actually supposed to be out there. I'm not accustomed to 3 full laps without seeing a single bike. 2 others said it was basically the same except they kept seeing each other on the opposite side (exiting turn 3 looking over to the straight before carousel).

RainX was a MUST. I swapped visors to a clean clear one instead of my RainXed mirror visor i had been using and had a HORRIBLE time with both fog and water. The RainXed one was fine all morning. Also, RainX on the GoPro seemed to help too. The instructors were recommending Lemon Pledge for visors.
I was on Ninja 300 and it got loose in the a couple times coming out of 6 and right off of 9 going into the short straight. I am really looking forward to going back next time around with good weather. One good praise from the instructors was I was getting a good drive out of the corners. So next time out gotta work on my BP and getting a good entry on the corners I was blowing. Should make for a good day.

I need to invest in a suit and put the bike up on the rear stand so I can practice getting off the bike before I hit another track day. I didnt think I would really get the bug to want to go faster but actually not being the slowest person on the track and getting to pass some people really opened up that door. I scared the instructor (Tommy) one time when I passed 3 bikes between 11 and 12. He thought I wasn't going to make the turn in for 12 but when I tipped I had slowed it down quite a bit. I hit pretty close to the mark but never felt like the front was going to wash out. I am pretty conservative in my riding so the fact he thought I was pushing it a little to far and I didnt feel like I went over my head since I didnt have to crank on it to get through the turn. Watching some videos that late apex under faster speeds would kill 13 and 14 so I see his point .. but it was fun
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I was on Ninja 300 and it got loose in the a couple times coming out of 6 and right off of 9 going into the short straight. I am really looking forward to going back next time around with good weather. One good praise from the instructors was I was getting a good drive out of the corners. So next time out gotta work on my BP and getting a good entry on the corners I was blowing. Should make for a good day.

I need to invest in a suit and put the bike up on the rear stand so I can practice getting off the bike before I hit another track day. I didnt think I would really get the bug to want to go faster but actually not being the slowest person on the track and getting to pass some people really opened up that door. I scared the instructor (Tommy) one time when I passed 3 bikes between 11 and 12. He thought I wasn't going to make the turn in for 12 but when I tipped I had slowed it down quite a bit. I hit pretty close to the mark but never felt like the front was going to wash out. I am pretty conservative in my riding so the fact he thought I was pushing it a little to far and I didnt feel like I went over my head since I didnt have to crank on it to get through the turn. Watching some videos that late apex under faster speeds would kill 13 and 14 so I see his point .. but it was fun
Tony I race the 300 in cmra. I only track the cbr1000. IMHO the minis are much more fun. Come out!!!!
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Tony I race the 300 in cmra. I only track the cbr1000. IMHO the minis are much more fun. Come out!!!!
racing cost money ... not in my scope right now
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I pushed pretty hard on one round... granted I'm FAR from fast, and only my 2nd track day.... but I wasn't lolly gagging around the track either. Ended up with one good lap, rain started in pretty good, and after feeling the back wiggle a couple times (usually when MOSTLY straight and upright) I slowed it down and focused purely on the line. I've goofed off in the rain on the street, in a straight line, enough to be comfortable with a little but of movement. There were a few turns that I felt uneasy in, so I safely stayed a bit wide with no drive out to. Basically, went above my comfort level, but knew I was no where near the bikes/traction level and had plenty of room.

I'll probably host a hole session on youtube just for the heck of it, but this was one lap from the session that I was trying for a LITTLE speed. Still barely used brakes and didn't continue accelerating on most of the straights once I was upright. That was REALLY obvious when I played it side by side with a lap from exactly 1 year ago in the perfect weather.

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RainX was a MUST. I swapped visors to a clean clear one instead of my RainXed mirror visor i had been using and had a HORRIBLE time with both fog and water. The RainXed one was fine all morning. Also, RainX on the GoPro seemed to help too. The instructors were recommending Lemon Pledge for visors.
Little update to this. I swapped because I thought I'd temporarily smudged up the mirror visor by using a towel that wasn't dry (1 microfiber towel used on 3 helmets, applying RainX and drying them). It seemed like the water drops were making it less tinted or something. Drops appeared especially bright. The non-uniform appearance was distracting, so I swapped on the clear visor. Confirmed last night.... RainX on microfiber towel removes the mirror tinting. Well.... it removes it in spots/marks with normal washing. With light hand buffing, it removes it COMPLETELY. I now have a 2nd clear visor, except I left the edges covering the latches/hinge tinted. It's as perfect a finish as a brand new clear visor.... just costs twice as much

I knew that Visor sucked last year when something smudged off the tint while inside a helmet bag.... just didn't realize how delicate it really was.
So yeah.... warm water, your hand, and spot dry.

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that's the helmet I have my mirrored visor on. Thanks for the heads up on how delicate it is. I haven't rain-x'd mine yet thankfully
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that's the helmet I have my mirrored visor on. Thanks for the heads up on how delicate it is. I haven't rain-x'd mine yet thankfully
i used the rainX on my hjc rpha10 tinted shield .. it just fogged up cause the rain was like a mist and would not run off
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Yeah... apparently that mirror tint is stupid delicate. I had read that before purchase, but really thought it was guys who scrubbed bugs off, treated them badly, or used paper towels to dry them. I'm REALLY careful with my visors, i HATE all scratches. I wash with warm water and my fingers, pat dry with towel, then wipe on RainX or some type of "quick detailer". I also don't leave them outside, or generally let ANYTHING touch the visor... for sure I'd be fine. Nope... it's just REALLY delicate.

I should have tested the quick detailer on the mirror tint, but kinda jumped right into polishing it off so I could use the visor still. Also wish I'd masked off an eyebrow/visor at the top edge. Oh well.

I've used all this stuff on Dark smoke sheilds by HJC and scorpion with zero issues.
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It was pretty awful there. I do not think anyone went out in L3. There were no race lines with all the standing water in the corners. Vision was my biggest issue due to wearing glasses. Last session Randy put some Pledge furniture polish on my face shield. I had rain tires on and was told I could easily went 20% faster. Riding L2. Rain tires are awesome except for the cost. Sunday I worked on getting off the bike and kept it more upright. My bike uses a Power Valve controller which adjust exhaust port height and was out all day Saturday. No power at all. Sunday it acted erratic all day. The rear rain really had some wear on the trailing edge of the sipes. Track was not wet enough I guess. All in all it was still a lot of fun and was good to know what the bike could do in the rain.

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