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Old 11-11-2015, 09:14 PM   #1
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MotoGP 2016 Thread ** Possible spoilers**

1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.060s
2. Maverick Vinales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 31.163s +0.103s
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 31.180s +0.120s
4. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 31.212s +0.152s
5. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.282s +0.222s
6. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.494s +0.434s
7. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 31.498s +0.438s
8. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 31.619s +0.559s
9. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.619s +0.559s
10. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 31.694s +0.634s
11. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.717s +0.657s
12. Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 31.796s +0.736s
13. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.901s +0.841s
14. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 31.937s +0.877s
15. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 31.967s +0.907s
16. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 32.100s +1.040s
17. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.377s +1.317s
18. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 32.402s +1.342s
19. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (Ride Smart-GP) 1m 32.492s +1.432s
20. Yonny Hernandez COL Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 32.510s +1.450s
21. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (Ride Smart-GP) 1m 32.847s +1.787s
22. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 33.568s +2.508s
23. Takuya Tsuda JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 33.797s +2.737s
24. Mike di Meglio FRA Factory Aprilia Gresini (Ride Smart-GP) 1m 34.372s +3.312s
25. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR) 1m 37.031s +5.971s


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Marc Marquez set the fastest time of the two-day post-season test in Valencia but stated he and Honda are still “far from the potential” of the 2016 electronics package.

Fresh from finishing second in the season finale, Marquez was three tenths of a second fastesr than the best 2015 race time.

Yet the 22-year old was far from happy with the electronics' performance, and still couldn't pass judgement on the new Honda engine.

“The thing is today we ride only with the Magneti Marelli software and we are far from a base. There are things we must improve. For the lap time the Michelin tyres are easier to make a faster lap time than Bridgestone.

“For that reason the times are really close. We play with many things, work a lot and the problem with the electronics is that you make five laps and then you stay half an hour or one hour in the box trying to fix. We need time to try and understand it well.

“At the moment I'm not enjoying it a lot. The thing is my bike didn't spin. It's just moving and cutting and I think we are far from the potential of these electronics. At the moment I still didn't understand well. I'm riding fast and pushing but I want to understand it better for the slides and all these things.

“Not much but the thing is with the Michelins you need to be careful. Just change a little bit the temperature and in the end there were many crashes, it was locking a lot. In the midday the feeling was different, the confidence was good. But everybody was pushing and locking the front.

“We must understand well and it's normal after many years with one tyres that the bikes are in that direction. I only work with the electronics. I was riding with the same set-up like Sunday. If we fix the set-up it will be better but we didn't spend time on this.”

Marquez stated he doesn't feel a need to alter his riding style dramatically and instead needs to come to terms with the feel of the Michelin rubber.

“The thing is with the Michelins you need to be careful. Just change a little bit the temperature and in the end there were many crashes, it was locking a lot. In the midday the feeling was different, the confidence was good. But everybody was pushing and locking the front.

“[With the electronics the most important area] For me at the moment is corner exit. Mid corner to exit corner is where we must understand more because sometimes I feel some cuts that I don't understand. Sometimes it was a little better.

“It looks more critical, you must try to play with the gas but when you play you are slow. Still we didn't understand but it's normal. Everything is new, the engineers are working a lot and with the electronics you need a lot of time so you can adjust corner by corner. Yesterday we just tried at the end and then it's difficult.”

Marquez suffered his second crash in as many days on Wednesday afternoon, this one coming as he braked for the final turn. It was he said, similar in style to his fall when testing the French rubber in Mugello in June.

“It wasn't similar. It was exactly the same as I had in Mugello at the Michelin test. When it was not completely straight with some banking with the front suddenly pass a bump and lock the front.

“It's this where I'm struggling more to understand where the limit is. With Bridgestone I was able to brake really deep. It's there where I'm struggling more. Yesterday with the crash was completely different.

“Of course it's better to be like Dani who didn't crash with the Michelin tyres. You know I didn't try to push 100 percent. I think many riders didn't push. If you're not really concentrated or focused it's really easy to lose the front. It's better to understand now than during the season.”


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Ok, so whose bright idea was it to have the Italians make the electronics for MotoGP? Keep reading:

Dani Pedrosa says he encounters problems with harder Michelins, believes compounds need to improve in varying temperatures, surfaces.

Dani Pedrosa believes Michelin needs to improve its harder compound so it can provide consistent feedback after the two-day post-season test in Valencia.

Third fastest on both Tuesday and Wednesday, Pedrosa was pleased to “keep the pace” with the base compound tyre but when temperatures rose on Wednesday afternoon and he fitted harder rubber he encountered “some problems”.

Echoing team-mate Marc Marquez's comments from Tuesday, which stated the feeling varied from tests in Misano, Aragon and Valencia, Pedrosa feels riders need a compound that gives consistent feel in different temperatures and on a variation of surfaces.

“At the moment on the base compound it looks like you can use for many laps, in and out, for the testing,” said 2015's fourth fastest rider. “We are not looking for lap times at this moment. We are looking for testing electronics and testing other things. We need a tyre that we can work on, that is constant because every time is the same feeling. Then when you change the compound – a little bit hard or something – then there are some problems.

“I think from the Michelin side they need to fix well the compounds we can use in every surface, range of temperature. It looks like it was more hot and some people put the hard but crashed. At least with the base compound we were able to test, that's able to race and keep the pace. In to the hardest compound they need to face.”

Turning to the 2016 Magneti Marelli electronics, Pedrosa explained how they continued to act in an unpredictable manner throughout Tuesday.

As Honda has always used its own software in the past, the 30-year old feels it will naturally take time to understand the character of the Italian electronics.

"Like I said before it's the first time Honda has another manufacturer making electronics on our bike. It's the first time for our technicians and riders. It's quite complicated. It's not like one, two, three, four, five. It's like five, seven, two. Things are not in sync.

“The wheelie comes when it's not meant to be or it's not coming. It's not consistent. Maybe you are with the fixed throttle. [Mimics engine note] ahhhh then woo woo! It changes by itself. You have sudden movements and you don't know what's happening because it's only happening one lap. It's not the next one.

“Also on the technicians, they've been working through the night to get a better setting and we did. Still, there is a long way to make it better. I don't know how many more tools we will have and where is the limitation software but we need to try to keep on working and I think this is the main priority now. Then when we know this is the limit then we need to start working on the geometry, making more grip, more wheelie or whatever.”


Both Pedrosa and Marquez requested that HRC's new version of the RC213V has a more manageable power delivery and better wheelie control but due to the electronics, was still unable to give a fair assessment of the new engine.

“Unfortunately it's so hard to judge. Also my '15 engine I know very well with my '15 electronics so with the '16 electronics I have issues because the engine still seems different. With the new engine I cannot judge it very well.

“It's not in sync so I don't know if it's by your acting, by the electronics or by itself. It's very hard. One lap is like this. The next is like that. We need more time.”

HRC are scheduled to continue testing at Jerez at the close of November.


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Rumors have Casey Stoner testing for Ducati next year. Do you think he is coming out of retirement? It would be good to have another guy in the mix up front.
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Here was a pretty good article I read about next year and the changes to MotoGP.

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Baaa! All the things Honda bitched and moaned about got put into place. Oh noes! Honda won't be able to buy their titles any more! Waiting for Honda to pull out like they said they would if universal electronics went through.
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So what channel will it be on Sunday? I'm reading conflicting reports that FS1 will or WILL NOT be carrying it.

Seems beIN is carrying it instead? I've read where its not HD quality.
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So what channel will it be on Sunday? I'm reading conflicting reports that FS1 will or WILL NOT be carrying it.

Seems beIN is carrying it instead? I've read where its not HD quality.
To clarify, WSBK on BeIN has been atrocious picture quality, and if it matters I have Comcast ( city contract...)
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Seems beIN is carrying it instead? I've read where its not HD quality.
Well I hope its on FS1

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I had seen that too. I'm not sure why they would show even just a schedule of something they weren't going to air?
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IMO spending the money for the video pass is well worth it. 120 bucks and you get to see all the practices, qualifying sessions, and races (moto3-GP). Plus, no commercials!
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