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Old 07-12-2007, 10:45 AM   #41
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:48 AM   #44
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yup, and if a cop were there, i'd pull right on over. who's side do you think a cop would take, a driver or a pack of riders blocking the frwy. remember he saw you passing the pack.

common courtesy would be nice, but the sit. unfolded as it did.
My point exactly for this case, biker will always lose to cager no matter what. It is stereotyped. One biker and one car driver then it is hard to believe but a pack of bikers = bad reps.
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especially when these bikers watch torque and think it's reality.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:50 AM   #46
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hey i'm not taking up for the dallas bunch....stunting on a highway is stupid but does that justify a car runnin over you so he can get home or to the bar 5 minutes sooner.... any group ride i've been on was way over the speed limit and not impending traffic..... and if they going that slow... i check out
and so what if he wants to get to the bar faster (for me it's get home and see my kid) but what gives the bikers the right to impose their time frame on anybody else? who's talking about running them over, i'm talking about going around them.

and you'd check em out, i'd blow right by em.

and yeah, they do drop down that slow, to pick the ft ends up. they ramp up eventually. why do you think they were blocking.....
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My point exactly for this case, biker will always lose to cager no matter what. It is stereotyped. One biker and one car driver then it is hard to believe but a pack of bikers = bad reps.
there's a reason for the sterotype......and it's well earned.
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yes how can they be blocking traffic but doing 90
Most of these stunter don't do 90. I have ridden with a few groups and they would do about 60mph wheelie but that is the speed limit. I don't know why they only go that fast and do wheelie? If you gonna break the law then at least do 80-90 mph wheelie so that you don't hold up any one.
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yes how can they be blocking traffic but doing 90
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"I read the thread once and didn't miss the part about the tailgating. You're specualting about the incident as much as I am yet you're right and I'm wrong? "

Sheesh Den... "'Video released by the North Texas Tollway Authority....just before the incident'."
DO you think they don't have timestamps, and can't 'track' to find the video of when the bikes passed through the toll location?

"Nuerotic huh? You want to start name calling just because you can't win a simple debate? "
Kind of a hyprocritical statement there isn't it Den... "Rightous Bull"?

"I think you need to go out and ride more. And when some idiot in a car runs you over you're gonna wish that someone like me was there to back you up. Or maybe I could just stand over you and tell you how it was your fault. "

Gee Maybe Den... I mean I'm only averaging between 1.5 and 2k+ miles a month and I haven't driven my car since March. :-)
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Most of these stunter don't do 90. I have ridden with a few groups and they would do about 60mph wheelie but that is the speed limit. I don't know why they only go that fast and do wheelie? If you gonna break the law then at least do 80-90 mph wheelie so that you don't hold up any one.
they (most) can't start their wheelies at 80-90. again thats why they were blocking.
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"yes how can they be blocking traffic but doing 90"

:-) How can the be doing 90 and not have to dodge other vehicles at the apparent time of day.
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there's a reason for the sterotype......and it's well earned.
Sorry to say but I helped earned a part of it.:BangHead:
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Do you teach this in your MSF course also ??? Just amazing that you teach a MSF course and think the way you do about people on bikes. No offense but you are an A$$hat on the way you think and type most of the time. Sorry but that is my opinion. Most people on here would think you are an A$$, I just think you were dropped on your head and don't always think correctly. But that is my opinion.


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i think they way i do from experience, so how long have you been biking?

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but what gives the bikers the right to impose their time frame on anybody else? who's talking about running them over, i'm talking about going around them.
They don't have any right to. But then again you don't have a right to a 'time frame'. I rarely drive the speed limit and I think that I should be able to split between the cars because they're slowing me down. Should I have that right?

And (paying Devil's advocate here) the speed limit in Dallas County is 60mph so if they're doing 60 then what's the problem? Wheelies on the highway are another story (too unsafe).
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Do you teach this in your MSF course also ??? Just amazing that you teach a MSF course and think the way you do about people on bikes. No offense but you are an A$$hat on the way you think and type most of the time. Sorry but that is my opinion. Most people on here would think you are an A$$, I just think you were dropped on your head and don't always think correctly. But that is my opinion.


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He does have his point. Sportbiker does have a bad rep for speeding, evading, stunting in the street. Most sportbiker are young compared to cruiser rider.
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They don't have any right to. But then again you don't have a right to a 'time frame'. I rarely drive the speed limit and I think that I should be able to split between the cars because they're slowing me down. Should I have that right?

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the same right the bikers felt that they could block the frwy w/
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He does have his point. Sportbiker does have a bad rep for speeding, evading, stunting in the street. Most sportbiker are young compared to cruiser rider.
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