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Old 07-11-2007, 09:44 PM   #1
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Need quick advice about header wrap!!!!1

Tried multiple different things but the 04 header just comes to close to my fairings and are melting them SOOOO im wrapping them, if they rust ohwell, stock headers are cheaper than fairings

My question is: Would 1x 50' roll of 2" wrap be enough? would the 1" wide stuff be better? Anyone had any luck with high temp paint before the wrapping?

would i have any left over at all? I need to wrap my pitbike pipe, like 6 inches of it that burns my thigh when doing stoppies
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Your stock headers should be titanium, they wont rust. Although headers have tiny pores which release heat and by wrapping them its gonna collect more heat and may sacrifice power. When you wrap them use safety wire.
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I was always under the impression that header wrap keeps heat inthus keeping exhaust velocity high....thus makin better power..... Im not lookin for ANY performance benefit from this, im just tired of my buddies askin why they smell roasting peanuts when they ride behind me( from my fairings roasting)
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:26 PM   #4
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haha well just to let you know its not EXACTLY like roasted nuts....kinda like if you were roasting peanuts in a plastic bowl...over an open flame....ya know kinda a combo of both, oh and when i walked inside for the first week after the swap my gf kept getting up and checking the oven thinkin something was burning haha
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ohwell i ordered the wrap, ill use a little piece on my pitbike header to see how it affects steel.

if you really want to smell it you can come smell my exhaust..oh but with the pipe bein a shorty now, i would suggest you bring some ear plugs
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I used to have my headers wrapped on my 929, when I removed them, some of the steel was missing from rust. Then again i rode in the rain alot. I had a full D&D.
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WEll i HOPE im ok with the new headers bein Titanium. either way i dont care all THAT much. maybe ill just pick a spare one up next time i find one on ebay for like $10. they go for CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, cheapest decent fairing i have found is about $200...FOR EACH SIDE... header is WAY cheaper and i would love the head reduction. oh and i dont ride in rain to much, hate how that engine grime gets all over the engine after a rain ride. i keep my stuff clean now that i have a nice pretty engine

i love those 929's i should have bought patricks but im poor

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I typically don't recommend wrapping titanium. I've got some heat tape you can put on the inside of your fairing panels that works pretty well.
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reasoning? if you dont mind

and what if i only wrapped the small section thats runs along the buttom of the fairing..say 15 inches of it. thats the only part causing a problem. its the edge of the fairing and thats the problem, id rather not wrap the tape on the button edge ya know, shiny on black....not bueno

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Old 07-12-2007, 11:22 AM   #12
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Wrapping pipes will cause them to deteriorate much faster, you might get some HP gains but if you have other pipes etc. and haven't done dyno testing it won't make much of a difference either way-hence don't do it.

Put some heat shielding on the plastics instead. Heck, even a piece of aluminum foil glued to them would help the radiation. Of course then, something else is going to be taking some of that heat rejected by the pipes.
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Patrick is 100% correct...

Absolutely do not wrap the headers. 2" fiberglass wrap will not stop the fairings from melting...ACTUALLY it will cause them to melt worse. That fiberglass absorbs so much heat, the wrap itself will melt right through the plastic. All you are really doing is taking whatever clearance there is between the header and the fairing out and filling it with wrap. NOt to mention it will rust right through steel, stainless etc. Ti won't rust persay, but it will get very brittle and crack..

Keeping heat in the pipes does add HP, not lose it.

Your best bet is to get some reflective heat barrier to help block some of it. If the header is touching, its going to melt through anything. I would rather you find someway to add clearance between the touch points. A good heat barrier is Thermo-tec. You can get it at summit. Its like 1/8" thick and has adheisive on it. Also I use www.coolandquiet.com "Zero Clearance" barrier...It works well but is $$.

BTW I have melted MANY fairings in my day...it sucks but there is ways around it wrapping the headers is not it.
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Can anyone bend Headers

Is there a way to bend your header(not that much) to keep it from touching you're fairing. I've tried beating on it and that doesn't seem to help much. I have a full exhaust on my bike and it melted a little of the fairing from being against it. It also melted through the bottom of the oil cooler radiator from touching it so I get to fix that now. It just seems like 2 of the headers on one side sit out further than the other two.

Can someone handle that 4 me?

edit: oops. I was reading this thread and I thought I was making a new thread.
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I think ill fabricate a small bracket to push the buttom of the fairings "out" away from the headers, and also to hold them in place(they flap a tiny bit at 80mph+)

then a combination of head barrier tape, spray on muffler coating, and some padding and i think ill be ok.

thanks for all the help though.
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